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A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Nevadablue » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:03 pm

The guys heard of all the expansion of their track system and decided to start building a speeder or work runabout. There's a lot left to do, but it looks like it will work. The bed will need to be extended and some tool racks installed, but the major components seem to be right. They have several Model T chassis that were stored a while back so several versions of this critter may show up.

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Broadoak » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:21 am

That looks pretty good to me Ken. :)

Would that be a Blomberg truck at the back by any chance?
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Chris18 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:51 am

Very good start. Can't wait for the next pics !
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Simon Andrews » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:44 am

Nice Idea. Keep us updated.

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby docnjoj » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:45 pm

That speeder looks way cool. I have an old Model T kit sitting on a shelf and you have inspired me to consider a railcar. Very fine work indeed!
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Nevadablue » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:36 am

The front truck is from a K-line car and the power truck at the rear is one of the Bachmann 44 Ton rigs with built in pickups. I'm away from home now, but I'll get more pics. I was just playing around and thought it looked like it was worth trying. I bought several of the Ertl cast cars earlier this year and that one had ORANGE fenders. The seller shipped the wrong one and let me keep it AND sent the right one. Needless to say I did more business with him. I had originally planned a 45mm version, but without the fenders it looks good on 16.5mm track IMO. :D

I'm considering getting a Deltang RC setup and putting the receiver and batteries in a common car that can power any little rig. This would be a good one for that.
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby SOUTHPASS » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:27 am

G'day....here is my 7.25inch gauge version. A bit different to the Gn15 that I was doing previously.

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Nevadablue » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:43 am

Oh, my... I just happen to have some rail, an old power wheel chair and a couple of fairly good batteries... AND a complete metal shop. Why did you post those pics? :D

Do you happen to have that build posted anywhere?
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby SOUTHPASS » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:08 am

G'day Ken....If you go to Facebook and chase back through the entries I think it is pretty well covered :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MinimalGaugeRailways/
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Chris18 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:25 am

It looks like a Peterbilt (I always loved these trucks) !
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby docnjoj » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:39 pm

HI Southpass
Do you have a layout to run that little speeder? Back yard tracks? I remember that you have worked on the "real" things.
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby SOUTHPASS » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:19 pm

Good morning David....Club track is just 5 minutes from home :D
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Nevadablue » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:48 pm

SOUTHPASS wrote:G'day Ken....If you go to Facebook and chase back through the entries I think it is pretty well covered :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MinimalGaugeRailways/


Darn, thanks anyway. I don't do facebook. :cry:
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby SOUTHPASS » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:58 am

The changing World, I use to visit a dozen or more forums. Now it's only 2, but have a good 50 links on Facebook.
Might have to put some photo's on Prototype Prattle...
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby rue_d_etropal » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:40 am

Facebook is OK for some things. I use it for family communication, as it is easier than email.
The trouble with Facebook is that if it is too easy to miss threads, unless you are using it all the time. It is said to be a good business tool, but I need to work out how to set up another account for my 3D printing.
Far prefer php type forums for dynamic discussion.

There might be more Model T conversions soon, as ICM have a 1/24th scale kit coming out. It should also be remembered that they were the basis for the Crewe Tractor for running on 60cm gauge in WW1. Obviously not so easy to adapt for 15in gauge, as road wheels are too far apart, so the Romanian solution is best, ie jack up the car/van and fit bogies underneath. I still sometimes think they got the idea from us modellers. :lol:
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby tebee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:28 am

But the Ratty did adopt a Crewe tractor to 15 inch gauge to make IC1 - given that this still exists in rebuilt form, it should be possible to work out how they did it.
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby rue_d_etropal » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:01 pm

not under the same body, so suspect some heavy modification. The Crew tractors were powered by form of chain drive from rear wheels, as I assume that is why they had the side pods on to protect anyone from them. My 1/35th scale(?) version is based on a plastic kit for the military Model T Ford , so I could see how it all appeared to fit together without having to raise it up like the one here. It looked all very precarious, but then it was designed so that if required it could be converted back to road version, so in theory carried the parts to do so.
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby KEG » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:39 pm

The frame of a Ford T is very narrow. It should be possible to mount 15 Inch gauge wheels underneath it.
Before WW 1 Ford sent those cars all over the world in parts by train or boat and the local blacksmith assembled them.

Here are some pictures of a 2 feet gauge Crewe-Ford: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/165540.html?1287079504

Plenty of pictures and plans at Google.

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby tebee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:24 pm

According to the article on page 19/339 of this copy of the Engineer http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/images/a/a4/Er19181018.pdf

The tractor was only 3ft 2ins wide, so a 15 inch versions does not sound out of the question.

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby rue_d_etropal » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:47 pm

I am not saying it could not be done, but if it could then I would have expected it to have been done somewhere and there would be photos. I think the bogie way, certainly on front is more likely for stability, but a single axle drive on rear, probably chain driven. On uneven track stability is important, especially for those driving. Most of the rail mounted car/van conversion on narrow gauge use a front bogie. I have found models with such a front bogie are better runners as they are not fight the curves.
A 9in reduction in gauge might not seem much, but it is over a third reduction, and might just be too much for balance.
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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Nevadablue » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:02 am

This one had single wheels in front and it appears that the original axle is chain driving the rear axles. That would make sense, since YES, the original width is way too wide. But, like said, the frame is quite narrow, as you can see and wheels could be mounted under it as in my version. I'm calling it drive shaft drive to gears in the bogie. It ran on a line in Utah/Colorado. Not 15" gauge, but oh well. 8)

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This is a Swedish Chevrolet version, with single axles. Note that it is wider as is the track gauge. But the frame on it is narrow also (the original car frame). The Model T version looks like it was probably more popular since the little car was available nearly anywhere as a 'kit'.

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby KEG » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:08 am

I assume, if somebody really had planned to build an automobile on 15 Inch rail, they would have choosen a small European car, e.g. an Austin 7, which was much smaller than Ford Ts or As. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_7


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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

Postby Thorness » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:02 pm

Nevadablue wrote:This one had single wheels in front and it appears that the original axle is chain driving the rear axles. That would make sense, since YES, the original width is way too wide. But, like said, the frame is quite narrow, as you can see and wheels could be mounted under it as in my version. I'm calling it drive shaft drive to gears in the bogie. It ran on a line in Utah/Colorado. Not 15" gauge, but oh well. 8)

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Re: A work runabout or speeder.

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Postby tebee » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:45 pm

And drawings of a model T / skip conversion here

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