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Re: New Direction

Postby lesmond » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:06 pm

Bill - that is a beautiful job. Very well done.

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Re: New Direction

Postby Willow Creek Traction » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:35 pm

She's coming along nicely. Hmm, having different nozzles for spray paints sounds nice ... but ... with the ones here which say if it seems clogged, remove the nozzle, soak in solvent, then replace, I have close to no success getting that nozzle back on the can.
Lining - I have always liked that style y'all paint your locos with.
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Re: New Direction

Postby docnjoj » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:27 pm

That is really nice work. Also inspiring. I may use my trusty old Porter Grandt Line and make it GN15. Best running loco I have.
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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:51 pm

Many thanks for the comments, chaps. Forrest - on the nozzles - with these you push a tube on the nozzle into a hole in the top of the can - I've had problems with nozzles the other way round, trying to get the hole in the nozzle to bed on the tube at the top of the can. I guess these are made to swap around ...

Filling the spokes seemed to be necessary to get away from the toy-like spoked wheels. It's helped by the fact that the wheel is backed by a metal disk, so the putty has something to fill against, instead of oozing out of the back! I was inspired by Michael Mott's loco - it's on here somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment! He used a Ben loco chassis, and covered the wheels with disks of plasticard, which is probably a bit easier.
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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:30 pm

Since I got back from my hols two weeks ago I seem to have been spending a lot of time fiddling about with little bits of metal, trying to lash up some faux valve gear. Finally, things have settled down, although the carpet monster had his fair share of little bits, and the results aren't too far from what I was trying to achieve ....

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I knocked up a little stand from bits of scrap wood to hold the body when I work on it, and to keep it out of the mess on my worktop.

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With the mech in and held in place by the couplings (that actually works, too) the imposture seems quite good ... from the rear ...

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... and from the front ...

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...however, from the other side the non-moving valve gear looks rather odd. I just hope it doesn't stand out when the thing is moving about.

The chimney and rear rails are just propped in place for now, while I work on the backhead detail. Anyway, things are progressing at my usual glacial pace. Hours of fun.
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Re: New Direction

Postby Nevadablue » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:47 pm

Fun is what it is all about.

The little loco is looking fine. :D
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Re: New Direction

Postby lesmond » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:59 pm

It looks fantastic Bill, I'm really enjoying this one.

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Re: New Direction

Postby Colin Peake » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:32 pm

Wow, that looks very impressive Bill, are you sure that is a Hornby chassis under there?!

I look forward to seeing the rest of the detailing.

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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:15 pm

Colin Peake wrote:Wow, that looks very impressive Bill, are you sure that is a Hornby chassis under there?!
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Well Colin, it was seeing your endorsement of the Smokey Joe chassis on the NGMR forum that convinced me that it was OK to use one!
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Re: New Direction

Postby docnjoj » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:20 pm

That loco is simply beautiful and the paint and stripes are exquisite. Nice!
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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:03 pm

Many thanks for the very kind comments, chaps. David - I haven't built a clean, lined, steam loco in 30-odd years, so I'm quite pleased with the way it's turning out. As long as I don't screw it up in the last stages ....
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Re: New Direction

Postby docnjoj » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:15 pm

Nah! Never happen.
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Re: New Direction

Postby NotHarryPotter » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:14 pm

The loco looks great Bill.
An inspiring project!
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Re: New Direction

Postby DuffieldBank » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:33 am

Bilco wrote:
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To be honest, I have NEVER seen one of these kits come out so well.

You've made an excellent job of it!

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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:23 am

You're very kind Chris, but don't forget that I had to cover the tank sides with thin styrene sheet and reinstate the beading around them due to my cack-handedness. Perhaps what you see is a desperate rescue job rather than a good build!
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Re: New Direction

Postby DuffieldBank » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:12 pm

Bilco wrote:You're very kind Chris, but don't forget that I had to cover the tank sides with thin styrene sheet and reinstate the beading around them due to my cack-handedness. Perhaps what you see is a desperate rescue job rather than a good build!


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Re: New Direction

Postby michael » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:41 am

Just checked out the build Bill, Wow! I am just about inspired to get the box of bits down off the shelf and work on an old loco project.

Nice work on the Loco Sir.

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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:43 am

Thank you Michael - it was seeing the work you started on the Percy mech that got me going on this project!
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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:10 pm

Right - I'm calling time on this project, so that I can get on with other aspects of Berger Hall and its rolling stock.

Works photographs have been taken (please make allowance for a complete lack of the sunshine that was such a feature of the last lot of photos) ...

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The left side. The black mark at the upper right corner of the lining brushed off (after the photo was taken!). The mounting plate for the coupling is slightly skew-wiff, but it's attached to the push-in coupling and was turned to be straight (after the photo was taken!). And no, the cab rail stanchion isn't bent.

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The backhead turned out better than I feared.

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The right side. The Rosco lubricator and whistle are 7mm scale brass castings from Gibsons, and the name and works plates are by Narrow Planet - superb etchings as you can see from the Duffield Bank works plate.

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On what will be the little bridge on Berger Hall. The imposing gentleman with the splendid moustaches is Graf Heinz von Pitze-Hutt, who has been sent over to Berger Hall by the German Imperial General Staff to assess the suitability of 15" gaiuge railways for military use. In his honour a special train was run with the title 'The Pitze Express'.

As 'Kaffie' neared completion I became increasingly apprehensive that I might b****r the whole thing up, so you may imagine the scene when I discovered a splash of Cyano glue on the right side of the dome at a late stage - the lady at the other end of the village complained about the noise again. I can't understand where it came from - I always put a little blob of the cyano on a spare bit of brass sheet and transfer the tiniest touch to where it's required, so it's just another example of the inate cussedness of inanimate objects.

I very gingerly rubbed the (dried) splash down with very fine glass paper and very gently wafted green paint over the dome, and it seems to have turned out OK - I think it's masked by the glare of the lights in the photos. Phew!
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Re: New Direction

Postby docnjoj » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:09 pm

Love the brasswork for the backhead and throttles. Excellent work indeed.
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Re: New Direction

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Re: New Direction

Postby Bilco » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:45 pm

Many thanks David. I thought I'd take advantage of the sunshine today to get some better shots - just a few, honest! All the pimples and blemishes revealed to the world ...

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As I mentioned, this is my first steam loco in 3 decades. The last one I built is this ...

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A Barclay fireless loco in 7mm scale. I bought in the works plates, but the name plates are home-etched - where did that capability go??
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Re: New Direction

Postby NotHarryPotter » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:06 pm

Bill,
lovely photos. The fireless loco has a lot of character as well!
thanks for sharing
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Re: New Direction

Postby Nevadablue » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:00 am

Very nice!
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Re: New Direction

Postby lesmond » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:48 am

Those are two beautiful locomotives. I can only aspire to models of that quality.

Thanks for the photo of the fireless - I've a real soft spot for those.

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