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Postby Ken Ford » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:25 pm

Looking great, Gavin! If I can ask - what are the approximate dimensions of your baseboard, and what radius on your loop ends? I'm still trying to get a handle on sizes in Gn15... too much HO in my blood, I guess.

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:20 pm

Ken Ford wrote:Looking great, Gavin! If I can ask - what are the approximate dimensions of your baseboard, and what radius on your loop ends? I'm still trying to get a handle on sizes in Gn15... too much HO in my blood, I guess.


24"x43", 8" radius curves, and using PECO On30 track.
The 24" dimension was a given, the length was determined by the tracklayout, which was arranged to fit the buildings. :D
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Postby Ken Ford » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:57 pm

Thanks, Gavin - it gives me a much better idea what will fit in a given space.

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:42 am

8) 8) 8) Well, the layout has had its first public showing. The 'ride on' boys had an official opening of their new clubrooms today. Big event, lots of people, live band, food, trains...all the drama. Clubrooms were opened by Richard Taylor (5 time Oscar winner from Weta Workshop, Lord of the Rings, King Kong, and all that). I took along Haywards Estate, and set it up on one of the picnic tables in the park, and ran on battery for a few hours. Inspires one to 'carry on'. :lol:
In fact, at one stage, it brought the live steamers to a halt. One of our garden railway group was driving a train and curiousity got the better of him...he just stopped his train, full of passengers, and wandered over to have a look. :!:
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Postby DCRfan » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:09 am

I didn't make it there until late in the day when everything was being packed up but there was one impressive 7.25 inch gauge loco still running around 8) Now with a real cab it would make a nice Gn9 prototype :P

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:11 am

:D Went back again today, this time I took the grandkids. Had a wonderfull time. That loco is a South African NGG 11 class I believe, one quarter full size. That's Lexi Browne driving, he finished building the loco which was started by a live steam enthusiast/builder in Stokes Valley.
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:01 am

:shock: A monumental change in philosophy has come about on the Haywards Estate Railway. Due to the fact that a set of Bachmann V skips has arrived at the Estate, and from a purely practical operating point of view, I've gone the Kadee way. Not irrevocably by the way. I can convert the gas mechanical back at any time to link and pin, thanks of course to Steve's ingeneous kit. The front of the gasser has the Sidelines attachment retained. I did find that running in reverse, whilst possible, was frought with danger. OK, I may draw a few frowns from the purists, but the last thing I want is stuff ups when showing to the public. The main thing is, they work too well to be ignored, and I'm happy with them. :!:

Wagon No.1 has been semi retired to detail the interior of the workshop, the the bloke that was riding it, is now doing chores there as well.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:15 am

Go with what works for you Gavin, dont think anyone will blame you for that :wink: .
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Postby Glen A » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:11 pm

I was very happy with my gas mechanical and V hoppers. They ran continuously for two days without any problems. In fact once I get my show payment, I am seriously considering getting some more.

Your layout is looking good.

Can you (or Paul) email me one decent size photo of each of your layouts as they appear at the show in November?
I might just do a Gn15 feature page in a forthcoming Garden Whistle....

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:56 am

8) Honest, I just plonked my layout down on a picnic table..along comes Rob England with his camera, and this is what you get.

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....and the train was moving all the time. 8) 8) 8)
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Postby DCRfan » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:33 am

Gavin Sowry wrote:8)
....and the train was moving all the time. 8) 8) 8)


Ah, if it was moving where's the driver :?: Is that him at the long drop :oops: :wink:
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:28 am

DCRfan wrote:
Gavin Sowry wrote:8)
....and the train was moving all the time. 8) 8) 8)


Ah, if it was moving where's the driver :?:


:roll: Ah, yes, been meaning to talk to you about finding a suitable bod to grace the cab. The 'mechanics' don't fit, can't get their knees in. I understand, though, that it is compulsory to have a 'Jon' driving if you are to be accepted by the Gn15 crowd. The photo is history now, that wagon is 'in the shed' and the fella that was on board, is now working in there too. The loco has since received some weathering.
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:39 am

:lol: :lol: And, just to keep you interested, another view....more like a publicity shot for the Guv's new Morris truck.


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Postby DCRfan » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:58 am

Gavin Sowry wrote: :roll: Ah, yes, been meaning to talk to you about finding a suitable bod to grace the cab. The 'mechanics' don't fit, can't get their knees in.


Saw, file and some filler will soon sort out knobbly knees :twisted: We should get together over the long weekend.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:57 am

Fabulous photo's Gavin, I had to look twice at the first one, first glance I thought you had found a prototype for the Bachmann loco :lol: .
The backdrop just fits perfectly, a happy accident maybe, but it works great.
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:20 am

Hi Gavin

Great picture, I did a double take when I saw the tree in the background.

I used one of Steve Bennett's figures as a driver and put him under the knife for some heavy reshaping. The seat and the position of the driver were the first things I did to my Gas Mechanical. The bonnet etc used up what space was left. That is why I had to build my own hood.

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Must try a full cab when I can find another chassis :)

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Postby andrew milner » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:31 pm

Nice photo's of a well modelled scene :D Is the Minor one of the 1:26th ones? It looks pretty close to scale without anything too close to give it away 8) By the way (plug coming :evil: ) There are two versions of leg shape available on my figures via Steve and with the arms separate they are should fit most spaces :lol: (plug over)
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Postby Glen A » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:16 pm

Nice photos Gavin (or should I say Rob).
Is the Morris a die cast or plastic?
Acorn models in Chch have got a couple of plastic 1:26 scale Morris convertibles cars for $13 each (a blue one and grey one). They are made by Scale Models, I think. I got a red one to put on module 3 (which is still in the planning stage in my head at the moment, and I need to finish modules 1 & 2 before I start it!).

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:05 pm

:shock: The Morrie is one of the 1:26 die casts. Price sounds about right. Bought the grandson one too....want doors that open car, grandad (please).
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:16 am

DCRfan wrote:
Gavin Sowry wrote: :roll: Ah, yes, been meaning to talk to you about finding a suitable bod to grace the cab. The 'mechanics' don't fit, can't get their knees in.


Saw, file and some filler will soon sort out knobbly knees :twisted: We should get together over the long weekend.


8) Haywards Estate Railway apologises for the temporary break in transmission....I've been sawing, filing, and bogging :roll:

:wink: The mechanic DOES fit (now). Undercoat is drying as we speak.
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:19 am

8) Driver now in cab, and actually looking like he belongs there.

Yeah, yeah, I know, you want to see the photos...good things come to those that wait (someone once said).
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Postby michael » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:49 pm

Fabulous Pics Gavin I too did a double take on the first shot. 8) 8)
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:59 am

:D :D :D Loved that shot of Rob's so much, I commissioned a painting of it... yours to share and enjoy 8) 8) 8)

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The artist is Win Dows, you may know of him.
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Postby Peter » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:33 pm

The artist is Win Dows, you may know of him.


Aye, I have a lot of respect for his early work, but his recent projects seem to stray from the theme abit. Not to mention his unstable relationship with the Ware brothers, Soft and Hard, and his anti-Penguin antics. Still his train pictures are very nice. :wink:

I like the effect Gavin :D
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