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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:06 pm

Has been a couple of months since I posted here, so time to inject something new. Andy (the Stuttgart one) posed the question on another thread, asking how small a pizza could you build and still have all round viewing? My answer to that would be, as small as you like :) , but to expand on that a little, the scene in the centre, can be designed to view from one direction only, or indeed from all the way around.

Originally, the subject of this thread, was going to be viewed from the front only, but sometime ago, I had a change of plan and thought multiple viewpoints would work better. If you go back to the beginning of this thread, the centre of the pizza, is dominated by a building, which takes up most of the space. The building though is rectangular, sitting inside a circle, so although at the corners of the building, it is quite close to the tracks, partway along the walls, there is a bit of spare space. This allows something to be fitted to the rear of the building and I decided a potting bench would fit in with the theme of the nursery and farm shop. So here you go, this is as far as I have got so far, still more details and clutter to add, but it is coming together. Questions as always are welcome :wink: .

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Postby andrew milner » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:42 am

Very nice Steve :D Can you give us the low down on the topiary 8)
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:37 am

Andrew Milner wrote:Very nice Steve :D Can you give us the low down on the topiary 8)


Photo essay later, need to find some space first :wink: .
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You've read the thread, now (something) the articles

Postby Emrys » Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:42 am

As mentioned elsewhere, Steve's given me the go ahead to convert this thread into articles for the site.

The first of these has just been published and there'll be another article for (at least) the next four Sundays ... with possibly a sixth to follow? :-)

I'll be interested to see how Steve's topiographical techniques compare to Pat's.

That's a thought. Pat? How about an article on your topiary?
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:53 pm

OK, have made a seperate thread on creating the small potted trees, which you can find here http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=3026 . Here's a quick preview of the finished pieces so you know what to expect.

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Postby andrew milner » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:06 pm

By the way, I said topiary 'cos I had a 'moment' and couldn't think of conifer :shock: :D :roll:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:44 pm

Andrew Milner wrote:By the way, I said topiary 'cos I had a 'moment' and couldn't think of conifer :shock: :D :roll:


:lol: no worries, same techniques would work for both.
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Postby michael » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:05 pm

Wow that looks great Steve.
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Postby Dave Westall » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:15 pm

Emrys,

I've never done any Topiary, only flowers, fruit and veg :!:

OK........if you insist..... :roll:



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Postby Jon Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:24 pm

I like it Pat. Another great bit of vegitation. 8)
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Postby Emrys » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:36 pm

Dave and Pat Westall wrote:I've never done any Topiary, only flowers, fruit and veg :!: ... Hope you like it :D


Very impressive, Pat.

How about an article on all four?
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Postby Dave Westall » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:52 pm

Emrys wrote:


That name looks familiar :!:
Look forward to seeing it, give my regards to Alfred. :D

Pat says she will do an article for you but will have to do photos first.


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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:10 pm

Dave and Pat Westall wrote:Hope you like it :D


Love it Pat, good to see you took up the challenge set by Emrys. Will look forward to seeing how you did it.
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Postby Emrys » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:43 pm

Dave and Pat Westall wrote:Emrys wrote:
That name looks familiar :!:
You've probably just spotted the signs to it from the A11, Dave. That'll be why the name rings a bell. :-)
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Postby Jon Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:59 pm

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You've probably just spotted the signs to it from the A11


Ah that's why it sounds familar. I had 15 months working on the Attleborough Bypass Improvement Scheme and the management were always talking about it :D
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Postby scott b » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:07 am

http://www.FfoulkeHall.co.uk
I took a look at that site not much content but seemed sweet none the less :lol: :lol: 8)

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Postby Joe Raymaker » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:07 am

Hullo :!:

A fascinating exhibition of how to make an excellent model from throw away materials :roll:

I think I saw a sign near the beginning, that you were selling honey;
perhaps Winnie, the Pooh could be your driver :lol:

Now, where is my medication? :)

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Dave and Pat Westall wrote:Image



Conifer? No surely a gnonifier

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Postby Joe Raymaker » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:04 pm

Beautiful trees, a reminder of the tiny Alberta Spruce, comes in a pot about twelve inches tall, and ten years later is the height of a man(if you plant it).

I didn't go to the separate site for trees, but I'm thinking they could be furnace filters, cut in little circles, jammed on a stick, trimmed, sprayed with hair spray, then rolled/dipped in ground foam or something from the spice cabinet(foam's cheaper?) It's a bit hard to get a "perfect" top, like the Holly Hobby Christmas tree, but what's "perfection", anyhow?

If you can give all this time to teaching, Steve, you must have a factory full of elves, naking models? :lol:

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Postby Motor Rail » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:25 pm

Fantastic conifers and topiary there! I love your wagons and locos, the people etc, great work, very inspiring!


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Postby Jon Randall » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:36 pm

naking models?

Or naked models :?: :wink:
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naking models?

Or naked models :?: :wink:


Don't know that I'd want to be that way :oops: on the footplate of a steamer - ouch! :shock:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:10 pm

Joe Raymaker wrote:I didn't go to the separate site for trees, but I'm thinking they could be furnace filters, cut in little circles, jammed on a stick, trimmed, sprayed with hair spray, then rolled/dipped in ground foam or something from the spice cabinet(foam's cheaper?) It's a bit hard to get a "perfect" top, like the Holly Hobby Christmas tree, but what's "perfection", anyhow?


Thats the way I used to make them Joe, hate to think how many hours I have spent cutting trees out of filters and pan scourers. The method used here is a whole lot quicker and easier. I think I could probably do 5 in the time it used to take to do one by the old methods. It's only suitable for small trees though, having said that, I mught try something a bit larger.

If you can give all this time to teaching, Steve, you must have a factory full of elves, naking models? :lol:


:lol: I wish that I did, have had problems finding elves around these parts, must be in the wrong part of the world :) .
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Postby michael » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:18 am

We all gnow that Steve is actually a magician, and capable of suspending time during bouts of intense manufacturing, while browsing the internet compiling relevant comentary and searching his amazing library of photos of obscure but important bits of history of industrial railways. On top of all this he doesnt need to sleep or eat but simply runs on a diet of gathering information (hence the term Hunter gatherers) and you all thought it related to early humans, Not true :twisted: It related to the "Dean of Narrow Gauge Information :roll: :)
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:41 am

michael wrote: On top of all this he doesnt need to sleep or eat but simply runs on a diet of gathering information (hence the term Hunter gatherers) and you all thought it related to early humans, Not true :twisted: It related to the "Dean of Narrow Gauge Information :roll: :)


http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dcr0198l.jpg
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or, maybe more appropriate:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dcr0106l.jpg

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