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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:54 pm

Looking good Andrew :D Theres some great modelling there 8)

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Postby andrew milner » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:47 am

Well, I had to go a long way to find this thread :D I have been making progress slowly but with the deadline approaching, I'm getting nervous :wink:

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The gateposts have been changed for longer/thicker ones as there was nowhere to hang the hinges (cut from card). The gate is just coffee stirrers (I have 5000 if anyone wants any £1 per 100 or bulk rates available - my dad sells coffee 8) ) Lights are from brass tube/plastic card/BIC biro (for lenses!) with GOW bulbs. I read on another thread that it 'never rains on model rail layouts'! Well it does on mine, this is Yorkshire :twisted:


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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:49 am

Not sure about the backscene :) , but the rest of it, WOW. That is looking great Andrew, has a really good atmosphere to it. Looks just like dawn or dusk with the lights on. The slight glint of light off the wet cobbles works very well in the photos, think this one needs to be in constant twilight. One last push to get it finished :wink: , it's going to look great.
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Postby cjwalas » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:48 pm

Yes, indeed! Wonderful character and mood conveyed in a simple design. Your execution of every element is tops and the lighting really makes it magic!
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:04 pm

Hi Andrew,
The layout looks great, I now know what detail is like after fiddling with photo a bit. What's the guy in the shed got in his hand :?:
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Postby michael » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:12 pm

Superb atmosphere there Andrew! That shed is a fine bit of modelwork. Your comment about the gate posts is interesting I am just doing a bit of work on some wooden gateposts for the wood gate that is under the walk on Macton, and I came to the same conclusuion about the smaller posts that I had.
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:19 pm

It is great :!: :!:
The artificial lights on the cobbles (and the odd puddle :?: ) would make it look just like my home town. It might need a screwed up fish and chip paper, Sheffield Star or Barnsley Chronicle :wink: for my neck of the woods :) :) :)

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Postby Peter » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:00 pm

Amazing work!
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Postby DCRfan » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:38 am

Thats is truely great work. It's amazing what can be done to hide a simple circle of track but I wouldn't what to be working in that shed without a hard hat :wink:
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Postby andrew milner » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:47 am

Thanks for the comments, gives you a push to keep going 8)

The workman is holding an angle grinder, may be better in this pic
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well, not really, I'll take a better one. Just bits of plastic card and filler. As for the puddles Ralph :wink: Thanks for the idea about chip paper! As it is Autumn, there are some leaves to scatter too and more ground cover. There are plans afoot for 'daylight' too and a use for the space underneath, although my original plans have had to be scaled down due to time limits!

Steve, backscene ( :D ) is now white, waiting to be painted! At least it proves to be cardboard!

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Postby Catweasel » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:06 pm

Wot,no sparks :roll:
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Postby michael » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:16 am

Wot,no sparks


Now there is a challenge.

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Postby Jon Randall » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:22 pm

michael said:


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Now there is a challenge.


Try http://www.expressmodels.co.uk/acatalog ... fects.html and scroll down to "Knife grinder 4mm"
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Postby andrew milner » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:00 pm

Hmmm... sparks are a sore point :oops: One of the reasons for the space underneath was for some fibre optics for - guess what :wink: Unfortunately, I couldn't get the effect I wanted, maybe next layout 8) .

Not much done but the loco in the pics is now coming along, photos soon :D
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Postby andrew milner » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:44 pm

Just had a look at the knife grinder Jon - thanks, I think :D

For Steve's benefit, the background is now a bit plainer (actually it's changed now but no photo 'til tomorrow 8) )
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and I'm making some progress on the loco

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Got to go - much to do :D
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Postby andrew milner » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:54 pm

Sorry Gerry, forgot to put these on :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:48 pm

Andrew Milner wrote:For Steve's benefit, the background is now a bit plainer (actually it's changed now but no photo 'til tomorrow 8) )


:lol: OK, I take it back :) I prefer how it looked before :lol:
Joking aside, the effect you had in the earlier photos, made it appear to be in the middle of a built up and congested area, which did suit the setting very well. In a way, it would be a bit of a shame to lose that feeling, but I'm not passing judgement (yet :) ) and will look forward to seeing what you have done. It's pretty ironic, the plain untreated cardboard above the gates in those photos, was just about the perfect colour under the lighting conditions :) . I'll shut up now :wink: .
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:47 pm

That grinder is superb Andrew. More than interested to see how the loco develops as I'm sure I've one of those units ---------somewhere :? again.
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Postby Peter » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:09 pm

This layout keeps looking better and better Andrew! :D
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Postby andrew milner » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:43 am

Must stop playing :D

Sorry it's a bit dark 8)

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Postby andrew milner » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:59 pm

Well that last video was a bit rubbish to say the least, so....


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:D :D :D

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Postby Jon Randall » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:29 pm

That looks great.
Hope he's got a ticket to change that abrasive wheel, looks like he wears them down quickly :lol:
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Postby andrew milner » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:57 pm

Well I've missed the deadline for the $29 challenge (the loco was going to be 'it' :cry: ) so I think I'd better get a move on with the layout or I'll miss that one too :wink:
Several updates, hope not too boring but I wanted to get the photos off the camera 8)
The 'animation' looks like it will now consist solely of the grinder. No time! For anyone interested, I took the idea from the knife grinder linked by Jon. I have some fibre optic threads I bought 30 years ago 'just in case' :D
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A bunch were passed through some Plastruct tubing, then the tubing cut and attached at an angle so the fibres bent as above. This tube then goes through the baseboard. After I measured the height of the figure, the tube was glued and the fibres cut to length 'in situ'. The ends under the base were fanned out and held with sticky tape.
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I then used a cheap motor and gearbox with pulleys to reduce the ratio and cut a circle of card to go on the shaft. A slot was cut near the edge (leaving several tabs to hold it) and a sheet of clear acetate glued over it
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I then used a thick marker to make crosses on the acetate so the 'sparks' would flash. A 12v bulb in a holder sits below the card circle under the optics
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By the way, my wiring has been (kindly!) described as Heath Robinson :oops:


The loco is getting there :?: Started life as a Model Power Porter Hustler as in the early video. However, it looked too long in the wheelbase, so I took the weight off and sliced a section out of the middle.Image

Plasticard for the superstructure using the photo as a guide. I had no pic of the front (though I'm sure there will be SOMEONE out there with some!) so I made it up and covered in the sides to hide the motor. As the front light is still working, I made an oversized one as I remember reading in some thread :shock: It's one of those screw covers for kitchen cabinets with the cap bit cut off, some acetate glued to the front and a thin slice off anothe screw cover over THAT as a bevel (?)
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(sorry, a bit out of focus!)
Needs exhaust and suspension - interior going in now!

Lastly I have made a 'softbox' lighting rig (well AM making :D )

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Card cut to a curved shape to cover the layout, slot left in the top for 12V flouorescent tube
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Still trying for that 'overcast look'. I will cover the bottom of the box with tracing paper to diffuse the light more but here are a couple of test shots.
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Unfortunately the camera just adjusts the lighting :evil:
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Well that's it for now ('thank goodness' they cry!), although the scenery has moved on :roll:
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:47 pm

The angle Grinder looks spectacular Andrew, I can see reason for the subdued lighting now. The rest is coming along Gnicely 8)
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Postby andrew milner » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:01 pm

Thanks Gerry, I am pleased with the grinder! Have to do another with the workshop light on 8)
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