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Postby DCRfan » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:54 pm

:shock: Is there a nuclear reactor under the bonnet? It would never be allowed in New Zealand :lol:
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Postby Pandy » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:45 pm

Nah, it's a great big D cell ! :lol:
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Postby Glen A » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:18 pm

And you won't be seeing it on my railway because I think it looks ugly :?

But I do like the scenery, and the way that unloading area is jutting out from the cliff edge. :P

Unfortunately there is no-where to hide all the tipping rods and controls if you build it out in the open like that on a model. :cry:

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Postby Glen A » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:41 pm

I'm off to a show in Dunedin (4 hours away) in a couple of weeks.

And I needed to come up with a quick temporary barrier fence that was easily transportable.

So I used some electrical conduit (20mm pipe) with ice-cream pots for bases.

I put concrete into the pots and then while it was still wet, put in a piece of pipe used for joining two sections together

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And here is a completed unit, with the pipe in. The orange pipe has holes in the end to run rope through it. And the pipe removes from the pot for transport.

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Postby Will Vale » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:06 am

I like the railings, that's a neat idea. Could you keep the lids on (with holes cut out) for that professional black finish?

Also thanks very much to you and your crew for demoing The Stamping Ground on the convention tour (and thereby missing out on some of the sessions). It was great to see it in the flesh as opposed to in pictures and movies. I particularly love the bridge module, and the level of ingenuity displayed everywhere you look.

Good luck in Dunedin!

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Postby Glen A » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:57 am

Although there are still plenty of new developments I want to add, I have decided to spend a bit of time enhancing what I have before the next few shows.

The next development is sound.

I found a little electronic 12v buzzer in a box of electronic bits. So with a couple of wires to a 12v power supply, and a push button, I now have a horn that can be sounded when the loco is coming out of the adit. There was no convenient space behind the back scene to mount it, so I put it out the front. It is held on by blue-tack, and covered with a bush, (right next to the tunnel mouth).
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Next I borrowed a little MP3 player. I found the headphones plug was the same as the external speakers for our home computer.
So I downloaded a free audio editing program (plenty to be found on the internet). Then I downloaded some free water sounds, and shovelling and mining sounds.
Using the editing program, I made a sound file that has the water sounds only coming out the left hand speaker, and the mining sounds only on the right hand speaker.
So by putting each speaker under the appropriate module I can leave the one track on continuous play and get the correct sounds in each area.
So far it has cost nothing to set up and try. If successful after the first show I can keep a look out for small portable MP3 players in store sales.

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Postby skylon » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:29 am

Glen, that's an excellent idea.

I'm not sure if you have a New Zealand equivalent, but over here shops like Aldi and Lidl have started doing MP3 players for a song.
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Postby Korschtal » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:34 pm

skylon wrote:...over here shops like Aldi and Lidl have started doing MP3 players for a song.


Isn't that what most people use them for?

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Postby JackBlack » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:00 am

Good idea you've done there Glen!!
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Postby underworld » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:21 am

skylon wrote:Glen, that's an excellent idea.

I'm not sure if you have a New Zealand equivalent, but over here shops like Aldi and Lidl have started doing MP3 players for a song.


I envy the deals you folks get at Aldi over there......98% of the Aldi stock here is food.....very little of the cool merchandise you get there. I got excited when someone had posted they had 1/12th scale motorcycles there cheap......we didn't get them here! :?


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Postby Glen A » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:19 am

Today I finally did some finishing work on the lower level of the shaft. Then added rocks at the side, and ballast on the bottom.

On the top I made a higher back scene, which should help protect the poppet head while the module is being transported. It also means I can now get a photo of the full height without distracting things being in the background.
The higher back scene means I could put in taller trees as well.

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The bottom:
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Postby skylon » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:25 am

Korschtal wrote:
skylon wrote:...over here shops like Aldi and Lidl have started doing MP3 players for a song.


Isn't that what most people use them for?

Sorry, I'm going now.


:lol: Didn't even register when I typed it!
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Postby dieselwater » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:15 pm

Glen A wrote:Today I finally did some finishing work on the lower level of the shaft. Then added rocks at the side, and ballast on the bottom.

On the top I made a higher back scene, which should help protect the poppet head while the module is being transported. It also means I can now get a photo of the full height without distracting things being in the background.
The higher back scene means I could put in taller trees as well.

The top:

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The bottom:
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Stunning work Glen :shock: :D Absolute show stopper!
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Postby JackBlack » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:48 pm

The top photo looks a bit aussie to me!!
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Postby NarrowGauge » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:07 pm

Thats just awesome.
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Postby PeterH » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:12 am

Glen A wrote:The higher back scene means I could put in taller trees as well


Don't know about trees Glen. A lot of period photos I have seen (eg in 'Coromandel Gold' by Moore & Ritchie) suggest that the miners destroyed any tree they could see, perhaps leaving a small heap of splinters. The land became black. Erosion started.
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Postby Glen A » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:33 am

But if I remove all the trees, then all I end up with is a plain blue back-board. :?

Which then needs a picture on it. :shock: And I'm no good at painting pictures of scenery :cry: , so the more big trees there are, the better I like it (regardless of how unprototypical it might be). :wink: :P

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Postby Prof Klyzlr » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:49 am

Dear Glen, Peter H,

Tis true, miners would tear down just about anything if it could be used as a pit-prop...

That said, old-time Aussie/NZ timbergetters practised "selective logging" long before it was environmentally conscious or fashionable,
because you only had X number of axe swings in you per day,
and any you wasted cutting down any log that wasn't straight, solid, and perfect for easily working thru the sawmills of the time,
was exactly that, a waste...
(- Of treefaller's time and effort,
- of the time and effort required to haul the unsuitable log to the mill,
- and of the mill boss's time to reject it before it got stuck in the breaking-down saw, or simply shattered into useless sawdust and splinters...)

Ergo, many "perfectly good" trees were left in the ground as was because they simply weren't suitable as sawlogs,
and thus could easily grow up enough to hide Glen's backdrop...
(until some "more modern" logger with a newfangled chainsaw simply started slashing down everything in sight,
because the IC-powered "axe" allowed him to... :( :wink: :evil: )
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:42 am

From the look of the weathering on the pit head it has been there for so long that the forest secondary growth has had a chance to grow
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Postby Glen A » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:06 pm

Last night I was sent a couple of photos by John Robinson, who took them while the layout was set up for the NZ Model Railway Convention at Easter.

As they are views from angles I don't normally take, I though that I'd post them here:


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photos by John Robinson (Wellington).

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Postby rockershovel » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:42 pm

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php ... orum_id=11

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Postby rockershovel » Sat May 01, 2010 12:19 pm

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surface details of tourist tramway at George and Charlotte Mine, Devon ( part of the Morwellham Quay heritage site ).. not the flashiest of tourist sites but good authentic details
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Postby Glen A » Thu May 20, 2010 8:09 pm

I have just found out the results from the public voting at the Duendin Train Show.

I am pleased to report that The Stamping Ground was voted first place with 287 votes.
2nd was a large display of Lego with 160 votes.
3rd was "Arauatu" with 96 votes.

Photos of some other layouts from the show were posted in this topic:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=6674

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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Thu May 20, 2010 8:15 pm

Glen A wrote:I am pleased to report that The Stamping Ground was voted first place with 287 votes.
:D :D :D
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Thu May 20, 2010 8:22 pm

Glen A wrote:I have just found out the results from the public voting at the Duendin Train Show.

I am pleased to report that The Stamping Ground was voted first place with 287 votes.
2nd was a large display of Lego with 160 votes.
3rd was "Arauatu" with 96 votes.

Photos of some other layouts from the show were posted in this topic:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=6674


:? Rather interesting on how the public see 'our' hobby (ref. 2nd place).
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