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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:33 pm

That's looking fantastic Glen.

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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:38 pm

Really taking shape now :D
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Postby Simon Andrews » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:58 pm

Excellent work Glen. The layout is really shaping up well :D
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Postby michael » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:20 am

Glen this is shaping up to be a great looking layout.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:00 am

Wonderful Glen, almost didnt notice there was no railway yet :wink:
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Postby Glen A » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:42 pm

Well, it is now less than two weeks to the train show, so I must really think about getting some track down soon!

However holding off track laying until the basic scenery was done was a good decision, because I made a real mess scattering scenic materials.
It was a bit dark by the time I took the photo, and the flash has blown out all the deails, but here is module 1 so far (a bit train-set-ish, I know):

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I have pre-wired and painted the track for the top level, ready to lay this week.
And here is a small bridge on the bottom line. The bottom of the piles are not glued down yet. I was going to straighten them, but I am starting to like the rickety look. Again, the flash has changed the colours from what they look like in real life.

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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:59 pm

Fantastic rock-face Glen, the strata is really realistic. 8)
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Postby Glen A » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:09 pm

The rocks are good ole FROCK’s Foam-rocks (he said, never having actually made any before).

Not wishing to boast or anything; but they actually look crap in the photo compared to what they look like in real life. I was very disappointed when I first glued them into place, as it wasn’t quite the look I was wanting. But with a bit of green scenery around them, I actually really like them now. And if I was starting again I would do this method again, rather than go back to plaster moulds.

The bottom rock face is done in one sheet of foam and glued straight on (and it shows). The top ones were carved in one sheet, then ripped all apart, and glued back together in sections on the layout. A much better random effect in my opinion.

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http://members.westnet.com.au/mjbd/html/foam_rocks_-_frocks.html

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Postby Simon Andrews » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:18 pm

Looks great Glen :D Sure to be a show stealer :wink:

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Postby Glen A » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:05 pm

Well I am back on line again, after having to hide away for a week in order to get some work done on the layout.

The train show has been and gone. The layout went in, still woefully incomplete. Even with a full week off work to finish it, it was still a last minute rush.
The first train finally went around just before 8pm on Friday, then it was straight into the car and off to the show to set up. I was the last to turn up (the organisers had even put my number away thinking I wasn't coming). But at least I wasn't the last to FINISH setting up. :)

The stamps ran well all weekend, and were loud enough to hear them above the crowd noise. The incline worked, but I had to hand load the wagon at the bottom, rather than shunt it around into the mine. That part is still to be fine tuned.

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I did get invited to two more shows, so it can't have looked too bad.
Now to finish off the many missing pieces... water race, mine entrance, etc, etc.
And after all that, start on the next module (which connects to the upper level track).

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Postby SOUTHPASS » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:47 pm

G,day....Looking good Glen, even with the rush to finish. Pleased that everything went to plan for you :)
A bit of clutter and dust will really blend it all in together :D
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:47 am

Looks great but I'm concerned about the mine building painted in Toll colours. :lol:
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:31 am

Great Glen not surprised you had further invites. 8) Realise that it was a rush to finish however have to agree with clutter comment from John.
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Postby Si Donal » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:03 am

Glen,

DCR Fan said:
Looks great but I'm concerned about the mine building painted in Toll colours.


Is there any reason why the building was painted pale yellow? I ask because it does seem to stand out compared to the muted tones of the rocks and the tin shed but that could be a perception of my jaded mind, heavily weathered by Cumbrian rain. I'm afraid I've never been to New Zealand but is it a common colour for buildings there? The rockface has a distinct Lake District feel to it.

Terrific layout though and amazing progress. I am deeply impressed by the stamping machine.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:06 am

Looks great Glen, maybe far from finished, but certainly far enough along to be shown. I'm sure it was much admired at the show.
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:35 am

Perhaps I should explain Toll run our mainline trains. There locos are painted yellow and green.
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Postby Dave Westall » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:02 pm

Haven't looked at this for a while but am very impressed by what you've achieved.

Looks like the waterwheel could do with a governor on it though :twisted:


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Postby Glen A » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:42 pm

I'm not sure that the building will be staying yellow (couldn't decide what colour it was going to be). If you have been to NZ West Coast you will see the buildings are painted 8) BRIGHT 8) colours so it does actually fit in. And if it does stay yellow it will be heavily weathered (another thing that didn't get finished).

Yes more clutter needed, but there are more moving parts to go in that empty space first. Some moving wifley tables and probably a cyanide tank or two with moving arms.

I am also starting to have second thoughts about shunting the wagon onto the incline trolley. But first I need to get a better controller and try it again. The old controller I was using could not stop the train accurately enough.

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Postby Bob Taylor » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:00 pm

Very nice layout indeed. A railway with a real purpose!

Are those V skips standard Bachmann On30 items?

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Postby Glen A » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:01 pm

Bob Taylor wrote:Very nice layout indeed. A railway with a real purpose!

Are those V skips standard Bachmann On30 items?

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Thanks Bob,

Yes they are standard Bachmann On30 ones. Eventually I may build my own, but in the mean time they will do. They look too small for some people, but I like them. (But I am more concerned with working animation than precise scale). And they hold about the right amount so my loading bins don't fill up too quick :wink:
The plan was to use them on the top line when I get that finished, but now I am thinking on getting another set for up there.

I was interested to read in the other thread (about Bachmann side dumping wagons) that they don't perform too well. In the initial tests I did they seem to go Ok. The next step requires them to actually work, so I shall soon find out!

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:31 pm

:D Looking good Glen.

:twisted: Now, if I never showed you the inside of my train shed.......
Have any others in Christchurch picked up the bug :?:
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Postby michael » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:48 am

Looks great Glen, That water wheel looks like it is certainly spinning up a storm. or are you just using slow film :twisted: 400 asa usually stops such action :!: :lol:

Did you need to keep the oilers working :?: so that the cranks didn't squeak. :roll:
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Postby andrew milner » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:56 am

[quote="michael"]Looks great Glen, That water wheel looks like it is certainly spinning up a storm. or are you just using slow film :twisted: 400 asa usually stops such action :!: :lol:

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Film, film :wink: thought we were trying to entice everyone into digital so we can all share :D

The layout looks great Glen. Bet no-one realised it wasn't finished unless you told them!
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Postby Glen A » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:38 pm

Gavin Sowry wrote::D Looking good Glen.

:twisted: Now, if I never showed you the inside of my train shed.......
Have any others in Christchurch picked up the bug :?:


Yeah Gavin, it is all your fault. And next time my wife is telling me off for working on trains instead of finishing the landscaping I'll be sure to give her your phone number :twisted: :lol:
Actually the stamper has been an idea for a while. I had the cams cast a few years ago. It was suppose to go out on my garden railway and really be powered from a water wheel, but I couldn't work out how to weather proof it.
Then when Gn15 came along :idea: :idea:

Yes I did flush out another person from CHCH (actually I see he joined this group back in 2005, but has never posted). Anyway he came waving a box of Bachmann V skips he just bought after seeing my ones, and also has a On30 porter being converted. I told him he had just been added to the driving roster for next year.


michael wrote: That water wheel looks like it is certainly spinning up a storm. or are you just using slow film 400 asa usually stops such action


It is not running as fast as it looks. It was low lighting, and I used a digital camera, with the flash turned off. The camera was displaying a message "WARNING slow shutter speed". I took it anyway, and another one with flash just to be sure. Of course the flash has blown out all the details, so I like this one better, because you can see the details in the rocks and tell the water wheel actually moves.

I did give all the moving parts a small drink of oil each day, It all ran fine during testing (without any oil), but I did detect a small squeek by the end of day 1.

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Postby Gavin Sowry » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:53 pm

Film, film :wink: thought we were trying to entice everyone into digital so we can all share :D


8) Both Glen and Paul use digital....how do you think some of my stuff gets posted so fast. :P
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