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Security Fencing in "G"scale

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:23 pm
by DRP
Has anyone noticed a source of supply of, or devised a way of modelling the kind of modern security fencing which consists of pressed-steel uprights (like thinly-sliced corrugated sheets), with the top sliced into three and formed into a central sharp spike with the side ones bent so that the top of each unit looks like a dangerous fleur-de-lys.:?:

(Sorry about the verbose description. I'll be glad to learn the proper name, if only in the interests of brevity in future).:?

The gnatterbox search engine (well, cotton-reel tank--with perished elastic), very helpfully came up with chain-link fencing, barbed wire and wooden fencing, in impressive variety.

I guess it might have come up with this if I'd known the correct name.

Best regards, David.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:48 pm
by andrew milner
I know exactly what you mean - very good description :D Never seen any for sale though. If you only needed to see one side, how about making one then casting the rest in resin? If the back is flat you would only need an open mould. Cast a few then make another mould with those so you can make several with each pour.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:16 pm
by More_Cats_Than_Sense
I think the term you are looking for is "Palisade Fencing" 8) There are several variations on the form of the uprights though.

This is the standard type

http://www.fencing-systems.co.uk/VD14/I ... ade472.jpg

A Google for the term produced a load of hits for the prototype.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:10 pm
by DRP
Thanks Andrew and Barry, Palisade fencing is the very thing I mean.':D'

Although I'm a bit disappointed in the name. I,d expected something a bit more pithy, like "Armco".

It's a bit surprising that nobody makes a brass etching of it, as it is such a feature of the industrial landscape these days.

Best regards, David.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:17 pm
by SOUTHPASS
Good morning David....I think the problem is that most people model "past days" more than "these days" :) .

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:31 pm
by DCRfan
I find a simple rope barrier stretched across the front of the layout is sufficient to keen little hands at bay :wink: Palicade fencing - That is over the top :twisted:

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:39 pm
by dana
naw our security fenceuing is plastic or steel big business in itaperently theese days as the price of metsal goes up so does the need for these fences in demo sites and new construction sites over here

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:52 am
by andrew milner
The same stuff is used around our local school :shock: . (painted a nice shade of green though :? )

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:52 am
by DRP
':lol:'':lol:'':lol:'

You want to see some of the places they have exhibitions in UK, Paul.Trouble is the little hands would probably carry off the Palisade fencing and weigh it in with the scrapper!

Similar problem in Canada, I see, Dana.

Regards, David.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:51 am
by chris krupa
I very seldom do public shows (as opposed to enthusiast shows like Small and Delightful) for precisely that reason. Similarly I've decided not to cope with aggressive parents who object to their little terrors being asked not to touch (not to mention parents that prod as well!).

As for the topic, I don't know of anyone making that kind of fencing. It sounds to me as if it would take quite a bit of expensive tooling. However, how about taking a strip of plastic corrugated, making one post and then multiplying by means of casting and recasting in resin? Once you had a panel you could get it cast in white metal or more resin.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:07 am
by DRP
Thanks, Chris.

I think you're right.It maywell be possible to fabricate it out of corrugated sheet, particularly as the prototype most commonly comes in the form of a W-section upright.

I've googled a firm called Knightwing who do a lot of modern-image stuff for OO/HO. They make some palisade fencing cast in panels, which is OK for the smaller scale, but I thought it might look a bit heavy as a casting in 1/24th.

As for the problem of the children of the stupid at shows, I'll explore that one no further so that I don't offend those with delicate sensitivities for the second time in a week ':!:'

Regards,David.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:05 pm
by rue_d_etropal
intersting the mention for Kightwing, as it seems surprising thee are no larger scale architectural models of this type of fening. Looking at some of the KW range some looks like Helhan HO, and some of the fittings packs look like those from Plastruct/EMA in UK, so there is hope that someone out there will produce this type of fencing for archectural modelers in a larger scale.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:45 pm
by Steve Bennett
rue_d_etropal wrote:Looking at some of the KW range some looks like Helhan HO, and some of the fittings packs look like those from Plastruct/EMA in UK


A lot of the Knightwing range is from Heljan, just re-packaged. Wasnt aware of any link with Plastruct, but it is quite possible.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:51 pm
by rue_d_etropal
Steve, some of the pipework looks like it is for oil refineries etc, which I think was one of the main archectual themes in Plastruct range. It is possible that Heljan produce for Plastruct, as do Preiser and Slaters I believe. Sometimes fifficulyt to work out who actually produces what.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:13 am
by Steve Bennett
rue_d_etropal wrote:Steve, some of the pipework looks like it is for oil refineries etc, which I think was one of the main archectual themes in Plastruct range. It is possible that Heljan produce for Plastruct, as do Preiser and Slaters I believe. Sometimes fifficulyt to work out who actually produces what.


Ah, the pipework is from Heljan aswell. The Plastruct range is quite different and is still in ABS as far as I know.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:26 am
by Colin Peake
Steve Bennett wrote:A lot of the Knightwing range is from Heljan, just re-packaged. Wasnt aware of any link with Plastruct, but it is quite possible.


Whilst a lot of the general mouldings are Heljan/Walthers originated, the later ones are bespoke. The Palisaide fencing is one of the more recent additions to the range and is actually moulded in plastic rather than cast in metal. It's very nice, but definately 4mm scale...

Colin