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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:17 pm

Right after a rather long break I've finally been able to get some more modelling done, it's only another wagon yet again made from balsa wood but more rolling stock can never be a bad thing in my opinion. :wink:

Construction was really simple it's just 5 pieces of balsa on a stock Tillig chassis, I'll get it painted once I build a wagon on the 1 remaining Tillig chassis I've got hanging around.

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This one is for those interested in how the underside looks:

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My idea behind this wagon was to produce a long wheel base version of the flat I made a few months back as shown below.

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Not sure what the load will be yet I've got to give that some thought.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:30 pm

Nice work with the balsa Nick and the nail holes are looking good :wink: .
At first I thought it was a bogie wagon looking at the length, so was glad to see the 4 wheeler underneath, getting bogies on the track without a ramp would be a nightmare :) .
I'm impressed by the build quality of the Tillig chassis as well, looks very nicely made.
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:38 pm

Yes your tip of using the pen has really helped me with my balsa stuff many times. :D

I reckon I'd be able to cope with a bogie chassis I've had practice with outlandishly wide bogie stock in the past thanks to the balsa Gn15 passenger carriage I made last year. :wink:

Indeed the Tillig chassis are very well made, a little light perhaps but I can always hide weight in the wagon loads. Despite being rather solid they are nice and easy to cut up to produce different lengths although with the tight curves on my wonky pizza I really wouldn't want to go for anything longer than the longest wagon in my current selection of rolling stock.
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Postby dieselwater » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:41 pm

Nick Ellingworth wrote:The scenic item is a 1926 Brough Superior SS100.

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I suspect that I'll have it placed so that it looks like it's about to be or just has been repaired.


I was looking in the model shop here, a real cave like place, and I saw this model, I nearly bought it, still might 8) Very nice model.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:54 pm

Nick Ellingworth wrote:Indeed the Tillig chassis are very well made, a little light perhaps but I can always hide weight in the wagon loads.


Another option, if you can find a bit of lead sheet flashing, cut a strip to fit under the wagon either side of the chassis, as long as you fit the same each side, it should be stable and the centre of gravity kept low.

Another possible source of lead sheet, is a pet shop that does tropical fish, they often sell strips of lead to wrap around the stems of plants to keep them at the bottom of the tank. I guess these days it might be synthetic lead, has been a while since I last checked. Not as cheap, but you wont need much :wink:
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Postby Giles B » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:01 pm

Great inspiration here, though it's actually got me going off at a tangent. Where did your starter set come from, Nick? Do you know if they're still available and if the price is still the same?
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:05 pm

I got the starter set from International Models the price is still just under £40 what you need to look for is "START Güterzug-Set (Reference #1412)" in the Tillig TT section. Just one final thing they can be a bit slow with the shipping.
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Postby Jon Randall » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:22 pm

Your stock is looking good Nick.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:23 pm

Nick Ellingworth wrote:Construction was really simple it's just 5 pieces of balsa on a stock Tillig chassis, .
Hey cool - that's one great thing about Gn15 - simple to do :D
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Postby dieselwater » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:31 pm

I like your stock too. Inspiring myself to have a go at some wooden wagons 8)
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:02 pm

dieselwater wrote:I like your stock too. Inspiring myself to have a go at some wooden wagons 8)


Gnice to see that I've been able to inspire someone. I find balsa a wonderful material to work with even the hard stuff is really easy to cut well and painting is really simple, just a dark brown wash/stain and you've got a decent wood look plus it'll probably be dry after half an hour. :D
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:16 pm

I've just realised that I completely forgot to post any updates here, since my last post I've built another wagon and painted both the new one and the long flat. I think I need to give them both another coat or two and then I'll start the detailing.

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sorry about the propped up by the PC monitor white paper background but I can't get at Dunwold Manor Sidings to take any decent photos until later in the week (provided I remember).
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Postby Simon Moore » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Looking great! Are the wagons actually painted or is it a stain? Either way real wood really gives the correct impression, as it should :D

Look forward to seeing more progress on your second loco too!

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Postby commerlad » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:22 pm

A good source for weights is the local fast fit tyre shops, For all the new alloy wheels the wheel weights are self stick blocks, Just call in and ask you may even get a load of old ones for free! :lol:
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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:31 pm

Looks good Nick. How about a photo of a rake :?:
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:44 pm

Simon Moore wrote:Looking great! Are the wagons actually painted or is it a stain? Either way real wood really gives the correct impression, as it should :D

Look forward to seeing more progress on your second loco too!


I use an acrylic wash, those wagons have had 2 coats so far I reckon I need another 2 to get the colour right.

commerlad wrote:A good source for weights is the local fast fit tyre shops, For all the new alloy wheels the wheel weights are self stick blocks, Just call in and ask you may even get a load of old ones for free! :lol:


I'll bear that in mind I walk past a couple of tyre places on my way to and from uni.

Jon Randall wrote:Looks good Nick. How about a photo of a rake :?:


I don't think I've got enough straight track to show the whole rake off in one photo. I'll see what I can do though. :P
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:28 pm

Well Jon you wanted a pic of the whole lot together and here is it, I couldn't resist trying to be a little arty though. :wink:

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Postby dieselwater » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:34 pm

The wagons look great all lined up like that 8) A nice variety too 8)
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Postby Jon Randall » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:04 pm

Thanks Nick they do indeed look great 8)
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Postby Simon Moore » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:07 pm

Very nice little train, the wagons look just right for the scale and track gauge, my fave's still the tool chest wagon :D

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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:10 pm

Great photo Nick, the complete train in sepia just has so much character.
Almost didnt notice that there was no scenery being so absorbed in looking at the subject. It does have a very Heywood feel to it (to me anyway :) ) even though it has one of them infernal little loco's pulling it :lol: . I'm impressed :D .
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:45 am

I am planning to build a kettle eventually but finding a suitable chassis at a decent price will be difficult. :wink:
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:51 am

I bought one of those Tillig sets, ready for when i build something in this scale/gauge, and have also managed to get some older Zeuke/Berliner Bahn stock , plus another diesel.
The older stuff does come up on eBay occasionally, but not as much as a couple of years ago :?:
Steam locos are rarer but again can sometimes be found on eBay.

What slightly disappointed me with the Tillig set was the radius of the track. I had hoped for slightly sharper curves, so I could use one or two of my 'boxes'. Will have to get some flexi track(possibly dual gauge 8) ) , just wondering what minimum radius would be for this stock.
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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:15 am

It all depends on the length of the chassis, I've shortened all of my wagons apart from one and they get round the relatively tight curves easily enough. :wink:
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Postby commerlad » Mon May 04, 2009 1:11 pm

How did you do with the wheel weights?

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A good source for weights is the local fast fit tyre shops, For all the new alloy wheels the wheel weights are self stick blocks, Just call in and ask you may even get a load of old ones for free!


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I'll bear that in mind I walk past a couple of tyre places on my way to and from uni.
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