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Postby Imagineering » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:31 pm

Gentlemen of the Forum.

It's time for me to stop lurking & get on with it. :D

You Gknow how it is when you want to order a Pizza, someone wants one thing on it, someone else wants another.

Gnow's the chance to choose your toppings & make suggestions as to what should go on this Pizza before the next Exhibition which is 11 weeks away.

The Layout is 600mm diameter, (23 1/2"), and is constructed from Extruded Polystyrene. It is intended to mount on a Turntable, rotating Clockwise as the Loco rotates Counter-Clockwise at the same speed.

All suggestions will be taken into account & modeled, if possible.

Thinking hats on - the Chef's apron is on & the Oven is hot and ready for cooking.

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me first

Postby tonynoosa » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:33 am

I would like to see
A hill
A gully
A bridge
A Tunnel or 2
Some nice cooper looking track
WOW that was Quick
That me done
NEXT..

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.Now you will have to explain Extruded Polystyrene and how you got the shape to me cause I like the look
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Re: me first

Postby Imagineering » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:12 am

tonynoosa wrote:.Now you will have to explain Extruded Polystyrene and how you got the shape to me cause I like the look


Extruded Polystyrene is a very dense Polystyrene that is extruded through dies, rather than expanded into molds like TV packaging etc.

It's available in 25, 50 & 100mm thick sheets measuring 2400X600mm. 50mm is NZ$50 per sheet.

Construction; I cut out 600mm circles on the Bandsaw & stuck them together using 'Nailbond', (slow drying but doesn't affect the 'styrene).
The Gully & Rock faces were shaped with a sharp knife & then attacked with a hard Wire Brush.

I then gently ran over the whole thing with a commercial Heat Gun. By doing this, it rounds out the fluffy bits that were caused by the Wire Brush, it also has the added effect of turning the surface back into its original hard Styrene. You can carefully 'profile' some areas with the Heat Gun but you need to be cautious.

The Layout is in Three pieces to enable Track maintenance etc.
It comes apart at Track Level and at the Tunnel Roof Level, leaving the Back Wall of the Tunnel still attached to the base.

The Hill hides a 12Volt SLA Battery to run the Loco.
The Turntable will be powered externally to the Layout as I need to control the Speed with an ESC.
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Postby Imagineering » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:27 am

Looks like the guys in the Workshop got stuck into this one today . . . :twisted:


Looked like this at 12:00am this morning
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Looks like this at 8:00pm this evening
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:55 am

Wow you don't hang around. Given Wellingtons middle earth connection, will in be the Moria Mine :lol:
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Postby Oztrainz » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:50 am

You'd want to fire the guys in the workshop
They've had that loco for 8 hours and still can't fix an oil leak :shock:
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:55 am

Oztrainz wrote:You'd want to fire the guys in the workshop
They've had that loco for 8 hours and still can't fix an oil leak :shock:


They are just ensuring there is work for them to fix tomorrow :P
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Postby Imagineering » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:59 am

DCRfan wrote:Wow you don't hang around. Given Wellingtons middle earth connection, will in be the Moria Mine :lol:



Do you have any Orcs in 1/24 Scale?? :twisted:
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Postby Alan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:37 am

Murray

I've moved this thread to Modelling Matters as it isn't really an introduction by a new member so much as a discussion about modelling.

Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

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Postby DCRfan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:51 am

Imagineering wrote:

Do you have any Orcs in 1/24 Scale?? :twisted:


No but I do have Gandalf :D The Lego seller at Railex had a whole box of 1:24thish Middle Earth figures for a couple of $ each.
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Postby Imagineering » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:17 am

Oztrainz wrote:You'd want to fire the guys in the workshop
They've had that loco for 8 hours and still can't fix an oil leak :shock:




It's not a leak, just messy overfilling to get the Loco out on time.
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Postby Imagineering » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:19 am

Alan wrote:Murray

I've moved this thread to Modelling Matters as it isn't really an introduction by a new member so much as a discussion about modelling.

Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

Regards

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Sorry Alan, my first thread & I wasn't aware of where it went. :oops:
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Postby Adrian » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:20 am

G'day Murry
If the layout was mine it would have.......

Palm trees with coconuts ( I like palm trees )...
Small open-air bar selling coconut drinks from the palm trees........
Beach out the front...preferably with some pretty girls........
............ (I like pretty girls )
Mermaid sitting on a rock....
Glow worms in the tunnel...working of course
Smugglers in the cave/mine section....with barrels and a treasure chest.

However the layout is yours so feel free to either use or bin any or all of the above suggestions.

By the way I like the idea of 'melting' the surface of the styrene with a heatgun. Simple when its pointed out by somebody else isn't it ?

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Postby Prof Klyzlr » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:39 am

Dear Adrian, Murray,



By the way I like the idea of 'melting' the surface of the styrene with a heatgun.


Um, I get the feeling it's a "deft touch" required,

and only moments between "a perfectly shaped terra-form"

VS

"a molten blobby mess" :?: :?: :?: :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Adrian » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:39 am

G'day Prof

You do realse that "a perfectly shaped terra-form" and "a molten blobby mess" can look remarkably similar ?

Well they do on my layouts !

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Postby Imagineering » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:30 am

Adrian wrote:G'day Murry

However the layout is yours so feel free to either use or bin any or all of the above suggestions.

By the way I like the idea of 'melting' the surface of the styrene with a heatgun. Simple when its pointed out by somebody else isn't it ?

Cheers


Feel free to suggest - which is why I opened this Thread. Can you supply me the 'Pretty Girls' (pref 1:1 scale).

Regards heating the Polystyrene, I initially did it to settle the 'fluffy bits' that resulted from the Wire Brush. The sealing of the surface was an added bonus.

And yes Prof. gently does it. If you have one of these Heat Guns, set it to its highest heat & lowest blow then approach slowly.
I like Terra Firma in my Layouts - the more Firmer the less Terror.
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Postby Adrian » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:38 am

G'day Murry
The pretty girls in 1/24 that I have are from Taymia from one of their car accessory sets.
The 1/1 scale ones you will have to source yourself. Sorry.
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Postby Imagineering » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:35 am

Adrian wrote:G'day Murry
The pretty girls in 1/24 that I have are from Taymia from one of their car accessory sets.
The 1/1 scale ones you will have to source yourself. Sorry.
Cheers


Adrian;

All I needed was a Muse . . . :D Thank you for the inspiration.

Can you quote me the Tamiya Kit number please?


Your idea set me thinking a bit further . . . RUM.
Distillation & Casking operations at front right, (complete with 'Pretty Girls, brabably dunrk).
Storage in the Cave at the back.
Treat the whole Layout as an Island with the Low Water Mark about 50mm up, (convenient that it's in 50mm Layers.
Raw materials would come in by Boat at High Tide, and there may be a few Casks smuggled out the back down some rather steep Sea Cliffs.
Do you gknow where to find some 1/24th Seagulls??

OK . . gnow what do we put in the 'front left' & Hill areas ????
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Postby Adrian » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:34 pm

G'day Murray

Sorry but the figures are not on the Tamiya site and my versions (which are a lot older than they look) have been transfered from their original box to a plain brown wrapper.

Just another thought.....if you make the layout into an island make the first 50mm layer an underwater scene then fit a 600mm diameter sheet of Perspex for the top of the sea/lake/whatever. Then add the layout to the top of that.

This allows for all sorts of scenic experiments that never get used on 'normal' layouts. ie sunken boats, seaweed, sharks, scuba divers, octopusses etc etc etc.........

Thinks......how long to the exhibition ????

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:28 pm

Imagineering wrote:
Do you gknow where to find some 1/24th Seagulls??



Hi Murray,
You'll not find better birds including seagulls than those made by Tracey.

OK, you'll have to pay postage from UK but they don't weigh much. :wink:
If you goto the second page of thread you'll find that Tracey is a member and a PM will get a response, she no longer has a website.
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Postby commerlad » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:10 pm

Anybody know of a 1/24th minisub?
Sometimes I think laterally, Then I have to get up.

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Postby Adrian » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:20 am

G'day

Not sure of the scale but ..............

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner_mini_beast.html

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Postby Imagineering » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:10 am

commerlad wrote:Anybody know of a 1/24th minisub?



Gnow I wish that I hadn't thrown all my toys out of the ToyBox when I was a Kid. I'm sure I had a Sub which would have fitted.

Gnot sure if I had a Great White Shark though.


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Postby KEG » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:48 am

Hi,

The Kraehwinkle Museum owns a strange submarine they found in one of the lakes in the neighbourhood a few years ago.


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So far it is still unidentified. Seems to be a Heinz Edelmann design from the late Sixties for a Brit. Entertainement group.


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