Pallet factory "Holz-Wurm" (Wood-Worm)

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Pallet factory "Holz-Wurm" (Wood-Worm)

Postby Alexanderrainer » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:55 pm

Hello all,

after taking over from former member "Waldbahner" (Gerd Ziller) the ground plate with layed track and some first details of his planned and started project I could continue and finish this "sleeping beauty" at last this year for exhibiting it at the "Faszination Modellbau" fair in Karlsruhe last weekend.

As I'm still bit exhausted today I just give a very first impression of that third Gn15 project and come back soon with some more words:

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head shot

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...closing time/morning time

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getting busy with incoming woods

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possibly to be seen: that instructing guy beyond the door

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Sometimes you need a break.

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...outgoing products like palettes and birdhouses

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...still painting

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Gerd (on left) visiting us.

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back home.
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Postby chris69 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:52 pm

KLASSE MODELL, ich kann die Holzwuerme hoeren....

Great model,love the way you positioned everything.Gives a great feeling of deph.Also the FACHWERK on the building is superb.

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Postby Glen A » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:17 pm

Very nice. 8)

The small turntable and the openning doors on the buildings should give plenty of operation.

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Postby Alexanderrainer » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:59 am

Hello Chris,

thanks for the words, indeed I couldn't let the woodworm out, as one of my neighbour exhibitors had some birds on his layout :wink:

Glen,
yes, all track beyond the turntable is electrified. But it's difficult to get into the store house with a loco and a car because there is 90 degree to get over the turntable. So I plan to get a Midge with flat deck or a self propelled truck. Also I consider digitalizing the layout for having at least two or three locos running for incoming wood, for transporting the products from the workshop to the store and to transport the ordered products to the "rest of the world".
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:55 am

Really nice looking layout Alex, the scenic work is to a very high standard.
Love the idea of the bird boxes from the offcuts of making pallets, great idea.
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:48 pm

Hello Steve,

thank you very, very much. The idea and the slogan of the layout is to be translated like "Wood Worm - everything wooden".

Interesting experience was to hear from a young Gentlemen, who was interested in Gn15: He visited the booth of the Bretzler company first and they sent him to my layout for having reference objects as they had not even one tiny Gn15 - product shown as in erlier years! :roll:

I gave him advice to visit the pepper7-shop :wink:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:43 pm

Not sure what is happening with Bretzler, he gets the Gn15 through Back2Bay6, not direct from me. but he hasn't had anything for nearly a year, so maybe he stopped stocking it, still on his website though :?: :?:
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:41 pm

...no wonder seeing his price list... :evil:
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:01 pm

Nicely presented layout Alex. I really like the rustic feel to it

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Postby gsnelson » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:13 pm

This is a beautiful railroad with very high presentation values. Congratulations!
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:44 pm

Hello all,

now for some more details:

The layout measures 70 x 40 cm (27 1/2 '' per 15 3/4 ''). The track is layed (by Gerd) in oval shape (see head shot) with one switch in front of the scene, leading to the turntable (handled with a wire) to serve workshop (with green sliding gate handled with a second wire from behind the scene) and store.

Most of the scenery (fence, store, loco shed, window shutters, windows, doors, siding of the gable) is made of balsawood, weathered with wire brush, water and acrylic colours or wood stain. Nice material, was easy and fun to work with.

The frame house is made from firework sticks, glued down to cardboard, brushed heavily and coloured with wood stain. The space between the wood stripes is filled with watered cast, which effected shrinkage cracks while drying.

All products, palettes, boxes, birdhouses are made from unweathered
balsawood, also the bodies of the cars, which are brushed and wheathered with furniture polish (smelling nice ;) )

Rolling stock is scratchbuild by Gerd and Sidelines material. The four axle-car is made on a cheap Mehano ore car, rolling very reasonably. I also tried to work with skeleton cars loaded with logs by Mehano, very cheap, rolling nice and looking reasonable after weathering.

The threewheeler ("Goli") is a typical german car of the post war years until the sixties. The Model is made by "Pola" and was given by my modelling mate Herbert Kessel in Aachen, who also made the tree in the background.

The good people come from SLM (drivers), Preiser and Just Plain Folk.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:08 pm

That is pretty cool 8)
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Postby Korschtal » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:25 pm

That is a beautiful model Alexander. I really like the way the buildings make a compact block in the corner.

As I'll be making a Fachwerkhaus sometime in the future, what's the German for the watered cast?
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:49 am

Hi Andy,

nice to hear/read from you! I missed you in Karlsruhe this year!

To the timber framed house: I glued some cut bars of silvester fireworks down on paper cardboard in the planned strukture. I noticed, that vertikal bars go visually through from top to the bottom and the horizontal bars are mostly the short part, that are mortized to the vertikal bars.

A good idea of timber work structure may be found here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ements.svg

Consider, that bars between the floors are to be seen in full length and lengthwise on one side of the house and just their square ends from the other end/face side.

Then I brushed the bars heavily with a steel brush, coloured them with wood stain and at a first try I filled the frames with glue for tile walls (ready from the do-it-yourself-store "Bauhaus"). That was avery messy job and I was unlucky with what I found one day later: The filled parts shrunk and fell out of the frames. So I scraped them out and the lutings off the bars, which became another messy job (used a bigger steel brush and a draw blade) BUT, by coincidence, made the bars really nice matured. Coloured them again with wood stain.

This second time I filled the frames (except for the window frames :wink: ) with "Moltofill - Spachtelmasse" (not gypsum) from the "Bauhaus", which I watered a little bit, to get it more fluent/liquid, put some of the stuff into a cut out corner of a small plastic freezer bag, cut a very small hole (not bigger than a pin head) into the bag, et voila, squeezed the stuff into the frames.This method avoids greasing the bars. Filled the frames one or two millimeters above bar-level and left it dry for one day...

Next Day I found nice dried frame fillings, shrunk also, but this time it gave some really nice cracks/clefts due to the watery consistence of the putty. Some grease on the bars could be scraped nicely and easy with a screw driver or something similar, brushed the fillings a bit with steel brush and/ore sandpaper for more structure.

Try to put some pics here of the above described work steps :roll:

In fact this would be nice to see all YOUR timber framework traditionals houses here, as there is big variety of timber framed houses all over the world, e.g. Europe.
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"Alphabet soup wisdom"

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Postby Alexanderrainer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:52 am

Forgot to mention, that I made the two walls of the house separately and glued them together in right angle. For this I glued a small balsa wood stripe at the right end of one wall (the side which is gliued to the other wall) for avoiding the fillings flowing away.
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:55 pm

Okay,

here are some illustrations:

first the stadium of filling the frames with tile glue:

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For all of your timber framed house builders: Don't do that! Use that stuff for dressing flat walls (styrofoam) in thin coat.

Better do that way:

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Second try with putty.

See here the two walls glued together and fixed in position with a supporting styrofoam wall:

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Also you may see in this pic the structure of the timbers between the floors.

Here is another view of it with the first bars of the loco shed:

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Postby Korschtal » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:57 am

Thanks for the detailed explanation Alexander: I may well be building a fachwerk/timber frame house soon so I'll be referring to this. I think I may be after a well-kept city gate first: I've found one where the inside has a section of wooden frame surrounded by stone which looks an attractive prototype...
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Postby 600mm » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:07 pm

very beautifully, a really nice G15 atmosphere
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:00 pm

Hello all,

it looks like Wood-Worm and me are to be seen again from 1st to 3rd Octobre 2010 in Leipzig at the "15. modell - hobby - spiel / Ausstellung für Modellbau, Modelleisenbahn, kreatives Gestalten, Spiel und Spielzeug vom 1. bis 3. Oktober 2010 in Leipzig".

Hope to fit some things and make others better by then.

Best regards to all

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"Alphabet soup wisdom"

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Postby Alexanderrainer » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:32 pm

Had really nice and inspiring days at the "Modell, Hobby, Spiel" in Leipzig:

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...curious kids...

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... and some test runnings of the new critter...

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and bright view into future...
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:35 pm

Hey Gnatters,

seems like we're exhibiting at OntraxX 2011 in Utrecht this year. Anybody of you to be seen there?

See you!

;)
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Postby KEG » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:04 pm

The Hamster will be around, if he returns from his wellness holydays in time.


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Suppose, I´ll have to drive him over. He insist to see the Gn15 Green House layout:


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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:54 pm

Did I miss finding what the red tile roof is made of?
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:09 am

Juergen.
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