Bagnall No. 1452 / 1906

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Bagnall No. 1452 / 1906

Postby KEG » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:34 pm

Some of you might have followed this thread at the trade section: http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=8586

Well, one of the Gn15 Bagnalls arrived at the Kraehwinkel Eisenbahn Gesellschaft (KEG) today :

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The size is quite impressive for a 1 : 24 scale model. Footprint without couplers or buffers is 110 x 52 mm. Seen here with a Steve Bennett DECADE

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The surface will need some sanding or / and filling, Here is an enlarged view.


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I have no idea, if 3-D-printing has a future at the moment for larger models. But I think, Alan´s idea to offer suitable parts sounds very promising.

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Postby rue_d_etropal » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:58 pm

odd that 3D print surface does look a bit rough. Might be partly the photo, but I have had a couple of Tbee's models, as well as my own and they looked smoother. Would not really bother me as I would not want an immaculate surface. Will have to see how my loco bits turn out.
Nice loco, wondering if a simple conversion pack for Hornby Bill/Ben loco might be in order. My initial conversion is for 1/35, but am thinking of just increasing cab height for Gn15.Like the open cab, might do that.
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Postby KEG » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:51 am

I would love to see some pictures of the surfaces of your own 3-D-Printed parts.

Bought some Gn15 axle boxes via Ebay earlier this year. Probably Shapeways as well. The surface seems to be quite rough.

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I drybrushed with white paint, to work out the details better.

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They are very small, almost too small for my purpose. I normally use the seize of the white metall casting from the 2nd picture for Gn15.

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Postby Glen A » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:24 am

That rough surface could be very useful if you are trying to create something that looks old and rusty!

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Postby Brack » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:56 am

The size of the loco means that to produce it in one of the finer detail materials (smoother) would make it cost a fair bit over £100 for the body. You would undoubtedly get a nicer surface, as my O9 versions are produced in FUD, but are half the size in scale, which means only 1/8 of the volume. Shapeways' materials are priced by volume.

I have to say that it was the first of my prints I've tried in WSF, and I think I'll stick with FUD for my smaller scale models. It is quite strong though, and with some filler (I used a bit of Gunze Mr Surfacer 500 on the saddle tank with some success) and sanding you will be able to get a nice smooth model. Hopefully when I make a separate pack of the fittings they'll be small enough to come out at a reasonable price in FUD or FD.

I'm glad to see it in someone's hands who can give it enjoy it - I realised I had too many things on the go at once so needed to pass it on to get workbench space. Since it left I've finished Leo70, 2 wagons and a bogie van, plus got halfway through a bogie coach (one of Tebee's, but with modifications), so it has helped to let it go, though I do miss the size of it compared to the O9 version - its a monster.

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Postby KEG » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:29 pm

Started sanding and painting a bit today. Mainly used one of these felt disks in a dremel and a cardboard cosmetic fingernail file. Plus some 700 sandpaper.

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Used undiluted Windsor & Newton Galeria Lamp Black (Acrylic) for a first trial paint coat. It acts as some kind of a filler. Will work on it with very fine steel wool tomorrow and see what happens.

At the moment I am quite happy wth this little locomotive. Gives me a chance to try out techniques I don´t know or have not used in a long time.
I am aiming at archieving a well kept work horse loco, after 25 years in active use. A few dents and scratches will be OK.

If someone can supply a picture of the backhead of this type of loco, it would be helpfull. It probaly will need a few steam lines.

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Postby Brack » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:24 am

As far as I'm able to tell there aren't any photos of that actual type's backhead. I use photos of other bagnall 040st to work out the piping on mine. There are several preserved so they're not too tricky to find online. I think there's a site called bagofbits or similar which has a few good detail photos on it. The pipework is fairly simple.

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Postby KEG » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:51 am

BagofBits is helpful http://www.bagofbits.com/se_page.php?pgname=bagnalls

Laurell assembled a few pictures of 18 inch baby Bagnalls as well: http://78n18.laurell.nu/prototypes/uk/content.html

Meanwhile I use one of these fibre glass eraser pens to smooth the surface of the model. Works vry well and I can reach the most remote areas.

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Postby Brack » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:49 am

I just remembered a few other references I have, and have emailled them to you (hopefully).

PM me if you don't get an email with some pictures in.

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Postby JeffSaxton » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:49 pm

Meanwhile I use one of these fibre glass eraser pens to smooth the surface of the model. Works vry well and I can reach the most remote areas.


Just be careful with those fibreglass erasers, the small fibers get everywhere, inhaled, under one's skin, and can be a rather painful experience.
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Postby KEG » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:24 pm

I survived the fibre glass eraser. Worked with it before. Task now is to slow down the drive to a reliable speed. It has been running in for a few hours at the test circle.

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These 3 D Prints do need quite a bit of extra weight (lead). But since this model is more or less hollow there is enough room for weight or additional electronics like Gold Caps.

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Postby KEG » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:19 pm

Some colour for the Carlo Spirito driver and for the loco.

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I sealed with antique wax, which needs some more polishing.

The 7mm scale builders plates look very convincing on a 1 : 24 model. Made by http://www.narrowplanet.co.uk/products

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Postby Brack » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:58 am

Looks good, glad to see it up and running. The builders plates are 7mm standard gauge size ones I ordered by mistake, but the do look about right.

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Postby KEG » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:15 am

Finally got around to work on the Baby Bagnal again. might have to invest in some more red paint for the chassis.


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I am very happy with the sevice of Narrow Planet, the nameplate maker.

Now I have to find a story, how the loco made it from the Sudan (Africa)
to Kraehwiinkel (Germany) in the early Twenties.

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Postby KEG » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:22 pm

LA TIGRESSE, the station cat after which the little Bagnall was named, is proud to announce the arrival of her first two babies:




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Hamster Herman came around, to pick up his cigar.


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