Rabbit, Rabbit, Rabbit..... ;)

For discussion of the issues faced when building a model or layout - how to replicate wood, what glues to use, exactly how much weathering can a Gnat take, a good source of detailing accessories - you get the picture, I'm sure.

Moderator: GnATTERbox Moderators

User avatar
david colley jnr
GnatterBox Centurion
GnatterBox Centurion
Posts: 107
Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 5:43 pm
Location: sherwood forest steam railway
Interests: all things steam, railways under 15" gauge and anything else that moves!

Rabbit, Rabbit, Rabbit..... ;)

Postby david colley jnr » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:27 pm

I have a long standing affection for Rabbit Warren layouts since seeing one in a PSL Model Railway Guide.
I've even had a go at a couple, but my problem has always been using too tight a radius or trying to fit too many twists to give realistic scenery.

Has anyone ever investigated using set track to create a convincing layout with at least three levels and a passing loop? would you mind sharing the track plans so I may at last be able to re-create my dream... Not that I don't already have enough projects! ;)

David
Check out the website,

www.sherwoodforestrailway.com

User avatar
rue_d_etropal
Millegniumer
Millegniumer
Posts: 2169
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:55 pm
Location: Accrington and sometimes France
Interests: France, any narrow/minmum gauge 40cm,50cm , 60cm

Postby rue_d_etropal » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:59 pm

'realistic scenery', what's that Judging by many of the layouts at exhibitions we all live in a very flat land with a few hills in the background.
Always a bit disappointed that the OO9 brigade decided rabbit warren layouts were nor realistic so better to have a simple station with little going on. Rabbit Warrens were always good entertainment at exhibitions, entertaining the paying public.
As for tight radius curves, would suggest using something like the Tomix 10cm radius N gauge, not sure what to use for 16.5mm gauge, the Fleischmann 10in curves no longer available. There is some tram track which is 8 and 10 in radius from Luna.
Getting right couplings would be key to working properly, especially on reverse curves. Obvious gradients should not be too steep.
Remember a wonderful live steam powered OO9 layout a few years ago, which was in the classic rabbit warren style.
Now you have got me thinking and I already have too many ideas for new layouts.
Simon Dawson
(Simon D.),
Narrow gauge Francophile interested in 1m, 60cm,50cm , 40cm and smaller gauges . Build in scales from 1/6th to 1/24th. Also 1/32nd and 1/35th using 16.5mm track to represent 50cm and 60cm gauges.
http://www.rue-d-etropal.com

User avatar
david colley jnr
GnatterBox Centurion
GnatterBox Centurion
Posts: 107
Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 5:43 pm
Location: sherwood forest steam railway
Interests: all things steam, railways under 15" gauge and anything else that moves!

Postby david colley jnr » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:17 pm

Sorry Simon, by realistic, I mean believable. On one of my attempts I had pillars of rock and cliff faces. Simply a case of trying to fit too much into too tight a space! It was 009 and 18" x30" and had three levels! To get all that track in it meant overly tight curves and massive gradients with no clearances...
I was hoping that by not using flex track it would prevent me from going too crazy and keep the hill rolling and not sheer faces!
Check out the website,



www.sherwoodforestrailway.com

Cross Kitter
GnatterBox Centurion
GnatterBox Centurion
Posts: 212
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:23 pm
Location: The Duchy of Cornwall, Just to the west of England
Interests: G Scale

Postby Cross Kitter » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:52 pm

If you want Rabbit Warren just look at the Metre Gauge in Switzerland - all those lovely spiral tunnels. :lol:

If you are wanting 009 then Kato do some very sharp radius curves.

Simon
Simon the "not at all cross"-kitter.
I'm looking for that decrepit look. What, I just need to look in the mirror?

User avatar
Colin Peake
Seasoned Campaigner
Seasoned Campaigner
Posts: 479
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:34 pm
Location: Nottinghamshire, UK

Postby Colin Peake » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:57 pm

You've missed one on eBay David:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cyril-Freezer ... 1c36a5ad9e

Colin :wink:
Colin Peake
http://o9modeller.blogspot.com/ - Modelling miniature railways in 7mm scale

bandmbill
True GnATTERbox
True GnATTERbox
Posts: 53
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 1:14 pm
Location: Gloucestershire UK
Interests: O9 Gn15 G9

Rabbits

Postby bandmbill » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:15 pm

I have doodled a few rabbit warrens - one idea I have thought of was to use a hidden tiny spiral in one corner so that the line only had to go down (or up) so that you have a (slightly) more believable model.
Using DCC since 1997 wherever I can!

Bill

Si
GnatterBox Centurion
GnatterBox Centurion
Posts: 196
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:36 pm
Interests: O9 and ng in general

Postby Si » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:34 am

I've often thought of doing a rabbit in O9 as it would allow me to set the trains going around a moderate length of track in a small space, looking after itself, while I'm working on the computer.

However, I wonder if rather than just the normal distorted loop of track, it might be a good idea to introduce end-to-end tracks with auto-shuttle control on them (given that these days the auto shuttle electrics seem to be quite clever and can do delays, slowing, accelerating, etc). Thus the warren no longer needs to twist around a mountain, but can have multiple trains running in and out of factories, docks, breweries, WWI trenches, etc etc.

Just a thought.

User avatar
Simon Andrews
Demi-Millegniumer
Demi-Millegniumer
Posts: 982
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:48 pm
Location: Calne, Wiltshire, England.
Interests: narrow gauge modelling, 009, 09.

Postby Simon Andrews » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:56 pm

Have a look at Tim Ticknell's OO9 rabbit warren layout. Pictures 61 - 66 in Mick T's Pewsey open day report. http://micksrovingreporter.blogspot.co.uk/
Just shows what can be achieved.

Simon.
Image

User avatar
Boghopper
GnatterBox Centurion
GnatterBox Centurion
Posts: 170
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:52 pm
Location: East Sussex
Interests: Narrow gauge railway modelling

Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:58 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:Have a look at Tim Ticknell's OO9 rabbit warren layout. Pictures 61 - 66 in Mick T's Pewsey open day report. http://micksrovingreporter.blogspot.co.uk/
Just shows what can be achieved.

Simon.


I've just had another look at Tim's unnamed layout and I have to say I'm very impressed. I don't see any problem with rabbit warrens, especially when they are as carefully imagineered and constructed as Tim's work always is.
Capability Chris

Creating beautiful gardens across the southeast
http://chrisodonoghue.co.uk
http://gdngrs.com Greenwich and District Narrow Gauge Railway Society
- visit http://expong.org Expo Narrow Gauge


Return to “Modelling Matters”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests