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Engineer's Emporium Auto Trolley (I must be off mine!).

Postby Simon Andrews » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:57 pm

Hi all,

I have completed the main part of my "inspired by" and "in the style of" model of the Engineer's Emporium loco Image and have started to detail it. Thinking about controls, does anyone know what form the brake handle takes and where it is located on the original :?: There seems to be a recycled 'one armed bandit' lever on the far side of the loco is this it?

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Re: Engineer's Emporium Auto Trolley (I must be off mine!).

Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:47 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:Thinking about controls, does anyone know what form the brake handle takes and where it is located on the original :?: There seems to be a recycled 'one armed bandit' lever on the far side of the loco is this it?


Yes, I'm reasonably confident that lever is for the brake, but cant see any sign of a linkage, so how it works has me puzzled. It would appear that there are no brakes on the side closest in the photo above, so it may just work on one side.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:46 pm

Thanks Steve :)

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Postby david colley jnr » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:13 am

I believe the loco has a single cylinder engine, coupled to a hydrostatic gearbox. If i'm right, the single lever will go to this and the gearbox takes on the role of speed controller, direction control and brake... Very niffty little things, they have been around and have worked well in miniature locos for years.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:47 am

david colley jnr wrote:I believe the loco has a single cylinder engine, coupled to a hydrostatic gearbox. If i'm right, the single lever will go to this and the gearbox takes on the role of speed controller, direction control and brake... Very niffty little things, they have been around and have worked well in miniature locos for years.


That makes sense David, would also explain why there is no sign of any conventional brakes on the photo's I have. One less thing to model, thats a bonus too :)
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Postby Simon Andrews » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:14 pm

I believe the loco has a single cylinder engine, coupled to a hydrostatic gearbox. If i'm right, the single lever will go to this and the gearbox takes on the role of speed controller, direction control and brake... Very niffty little things, they have been around and have worked well in miniature locos for years.
Arrrgh!...... 24 hours to late :evil: Oh well never mind :wink:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:20 am

Simon Andrews wrote: Arrrgh!...... 24 hours to late :evil: Oh well never mind :wink:


Dont worry Simon, yours looks fine the way it is, besides, how many identical narrow gauge loco's are there, even those coming off the same production line have subtle differences :)
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:52 pm

Having now seen the completed model on http://gnine.info, ok, I did have a sneak preview :) I have got to say, WELL DONE, what a great little model Simon. I'm really looking forward to seeing it for real next weekend.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:03 pm

Finally got to see Simon's little beauty today, at a 009 Society members day. of course we had to have a bit of a Gnine huddle and then borrowed the end of a 009 layout for a little photoshoot :)

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This gave the opportunity to take a few more pics from different angles than seen previously, sorry about the glare from the flash.

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What really surprised me seeing it for real like this, was how much space there was for the driver. It was a real help seeing it like this, as I am in the process of designing a kit based on this loco, it will be slightly longer, so that a Kato mechanism can be used without any alterations. Now I'm all fired up with enthusiasm, thanks Simon.
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:32 pm

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Full marks! Wonderful little loco Simon :D :D

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Postby rue_d_etropal » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:15 am

would look very nice in 1/12th scale :wink:
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Postby KeithB » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:19 pm

What's the latest on the mini-Lister kit, Steve? (Like I need another Lister!)
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Postby dr5euss » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:13 pm

Oooooh, was this the inspiration for Titch?

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Postby Simon Andrews » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:48 pm

No George, although I think the idea for both locos evolved about the same time mine took longer to complete. I think Steve made Titch in a quite 5 minutes between building a couple of layouts :twisted: :wink:

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Postby Bob Taylor » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:16 pm

That long? :wink:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:30 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:No George, although I think the idea for both locos evolved about the same time mine took longer to complete. I think Steve made Titch in a quite 5 minutes between building a couple of layouts :twisted: :wink:


:lol: A bit longer than that, but it did come together very quickly over a weekend of feverish activity, without any sleep, so it probably took somewhere between 40 and 50 hours all together. I doubt that was any quicker than yours Simon, just compressed into a shorter period.

By coincidence, I am working on the follow up loco to Titch at the moment. I did most of the work on it, sometime ago, but was not really happy with the fitment of the Kato chassis under it. The parts are on the bench at the moment and I hope to get the moulds done in the next couple of days. There is certainly a bit of influence from the Engineers Emporium loco in the new one, but it is not a model of it.

While we are on the subject, does anybody have any photo's of the gearbox/transmission housing on the Engineers Emporium loco. Nearly all the photo's around show it from the front, so a photo or two from the rear would be very helpful, I would like to get as a close a resembalance to the real thing as possible when I come to do it.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:05 pm

Sorry Steve no rear views :( Just out of interest will the new loco have coil spring axle boxes :?:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:24 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:Sorry Steve no rear views :( Just out of interest will the new loco have coil spring axle boxes :?:


:roll: Possibly :wink:
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Postby KeithB » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:24 am

Any update on that mini-Lister kit, Steve?

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Postby Simon Moore » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:33 pm

Update on the real Mini Lister, now has a roof and has moved to Spain 8)

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Interesting set up; http://www.almondblossomrailway.com/ some good inspiration for you crazy G9ers.

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Postby chris stockdale » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:28 pm

Simon Moore wrote:Update on the real Mini Lister, now has a roof and has moved to Spain


I think you'll find there's rather more than one. The pic at the top of this thread is presumably set up for use by a certain individual in Portmeirion :wink:

Meanwhile, if you fancy a change my eye has been taken by


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as offering a bit of fun too.


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Postby Simon Moore » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:39 pm

Damn and here I was thinking I'd traced the same loco, ah well, like the little speeder, simple but gnifty little thing :D

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:33 pm

There are a few around, they might even be in double figures by now :)
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Postby scott b » Fri May 01, 2009 2:35 am

I did one a while back on a Kato mech.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri May 01, 2009 11:33 am

scott b wrote:I did one a while back on a Kato mech.

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Reminds me, must try and find the bits for the one I was building, not seen them for months :roll: probably buried on the workbench somewhere :lol:
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