The Orchard Line (Formally a Woodland Railway).

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The Orchard Line (Formally a Woodland Railway).

Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:51 pm

Suppose I could take a little break from the text books and have a bit of a play with some set track Just for 5 or 10 minutes


I have been toying with this idea since Steve posted this link http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=1146&highlight=woodland I thought that the idea would work well in Gnine.
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Above is the track plan laid out on an A3 board. At the rear is a fiddle siding. Mel stands at the end of a siding serving the old engine shed, this building is now used to store some PW wagons. The train stands at the site of a trestle bridge.
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The timber bolsters are Avalon 09 stock.
I hope to start track laying this week and will keep you updated.

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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:57 pm

Looks interesting! :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:42 pm

I like that Simon, nice concept and Gnine should work very well for it, should help retain the homebuilt feel. Might need to dig out some of those Avalon wagons myself, they look pretty good for this scale :) . What is that board made of, doesnt look like anything I would have thoight of as a base, almost looks like it is covered in something :?:
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Postby michael » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:45 am

Simon I think you need to have a word with the chap laying the sleepers he seems to have trouble keeping the spacing even :twisted: :lol:
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Postby cookie » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:02 pm

Thats going to look great Simon, I hope your tree building fingers are ready :D

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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:14 pm

Michael its 'rustic' sleepering :twisted:

Steve the board is two layers of foamcore board on a balsa frame and covered with Noch grass mat. I made it for the kids some time ago the idea being to provide a train 'play set' on which set track could be pinned down temporarily and played on Britains farm animals etc :idea: Its a bit unstable and is prone to warping and really needs a better subframe :( It is however useful for pinning down track to plan layouts, check clearances, minimum radii and coupling performance :)

Having looked at Upton Whent and Big Cat Mine I have realigned the track since posting the first photos. Trees should prove a challenge. I hope to start track laying tonight kids and studying permitting :roll:

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Postby Catweasel » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:19 pm

Why not make a ply box and sit the base board in it. A cross brace going corner to corner underneath will hold it square and steady.
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Postby ian holmes » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:17 pm

Looking forward to this one

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Postby MilesB » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:42 am

Steve Bennett wrote: Might need to dig out some of those Avalon wagons myself, they look pretty good for this scale :) .

I assumed that too - something to do with all those unbuilt O9 wagons I've got lying around... most with 'Bramble Line' header cards too!

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Postby Simon Andrews » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:00 pm

"I found this piece of foam board......" Always wanted to start a post with that sentence :D
OK heres the final track plan. Fiddle area top left corner, trestle bridge bottom right, and old shed bottom left. The tightness of the siding into the shed will be increased and may extend through the backscene into the fiddle area.
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Does anyone have any other observations or suggestions before I start cutting track?

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:01 pm

MilesB wrote:I assumed that too - something to do with all those unbuilt O9 wagons I've got lying around... most with 'Blackberry Way' header cards too!


Those must be almost to antique status now Miles, not sure how collectable they are though :lol: .
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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:20 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:Does anyone have any other observations or suggestions before I start cutting track?


Not much to go wrong there Simon, a few reservations about a trestle on a tight curve like that, but cant think where else you could put it :roll: .
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Postby ian holmes » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:41 pm

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It's not the trackplan that matters. its what you do with it..
I think Iain C Rice says something similar. I certainly couldn't come up with something so profound...
Get a few boxes to suggest buildings, scrunch up (good Blue Peter word there) some paper to suggest contours and place them on there to get a feel for how it could look. Then decide if you need to make any changes

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The Orchard Line

Postby Simon Andrews » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:59 am

After a long period of inactivily on this project I have started track laying. The plan and back story has changed slightly. The line will now run through a small walled orchard, part of a large house and gardens somewhere in the south west of England, an idea inspired by Peter Pages 16.5mm layout "Willoughby's Garden" which was described some time ago in the 7mm NGA magazine Narrow Lines.

Heres a picture of progress to date.

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Foamcore board walls will surround the layout on three sides. There is a continous run with a siding serving a potting shed in the centre of the orchard, next to which will be a small halt and shelter. The rest of the garden, the house and workshop is assumed to be off stage and are reached trough a gate in the top left corner.

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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:29 am

Looking good Simon.
I've got a Victorian image with fan-shaped peach trees trained up the wall.
I don't know if you have room for it but some walled gardens had lean-to greenhouses heated by underground boiler-rooms.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:04 am

Like the concept Simon, the agriculturual theme does suit Gnine very well and a perfect home for your mini Lister, reminds me of a certain line in Spain :wink:

I'm guessing you are going to be building lots of trees for this one as well :)
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Postby route29 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:21 pm

Gnice! 8) The track plan reminds me of my first layout - in N standard gauge. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:36 am

Thanks for the feedback :D I like your ideas Jon, a green house could form the basis for a second module. Steve, the 3 1/2" radius on the shed siding means the mini lister will be restricted to the "mainline". I'll need something smaller to shunt the siding, I'm building a new speeder and have been looking at photos of driving cars and also your Roanoke loco as a solution.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:37 am

Simon Andrews wrote:Thanks for the feedback :D I like your ideas Jon, a green house could form the basis for a second module. Steve, the 3 1/2" radius on the shed siding means the mini lister will be restricted to the "mainline". I'll need something smaller to shunt the siding, I'm building a new speeder and have been looking at photos of driving cars and also your Roanoke loco as a solution.


So what mechanism are you using under the speeder :?: One of those tiny Caramel units by any chance :?:

If it's any use, you should find that a Bachmann Plymouth with the flanges removed on the centre wheels will get around it.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:54 pm

Your a bad bad man :!: I hadn't thought about the Caramel bogie but now that you have mentioned it I seem to recall someone posting a picture of what amounted to a motorised chair pulling a bar stool on a two wheeled trolley. Must stay focused :roll:

I have laid some more track today and have been running my Black Hall stock. The Halling bogies run so well :D that a diesel and driving car combo seems to be the best option with other locos like the Lister and Gnine VB appearing on the continous run just for a bit of variety.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:15 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:Your a bad bad man :!: I hadn't thought about the Caramel bogie but now that you have mentioned it I seem to recall someone posting a picture of what amounted to a motorised chair pulling a bar stool on a two wheeled trolley. Must stay focused :roll:


You mean this one
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?p=36100#36100
Had similar thoughts, but I'm not sure how easy it would be to balance a G scale figure on the tiny Caramel bogie, it would need to be directly over the centre I would think.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:45 pm

No I had forgotten about that one :roll: I meant this one http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?p=57028&highlight=#57028
So many speeders so little time :wink:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:06 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:No I had forgotten about that one :roll: I meant this one http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?p=57028&highlight=#57028
So many speeders so little time :wink:


Oh yes, remember that now, another possibility :roll: yup, too many options, not enough time :lol:
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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:03 am

Well the loop and siding are now laid and I have been watching a train chase its tail for the last hour :D Very theraputic :!: Tommorrow theres some wiring to do and then it will be time to start on the scenery :D

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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:04 pm

Okay, had a mental block :oops: so I've got a question :roll: . I want to work the points by wire and tube method. I want to use a slide switch to throw the point and switch the polarity of the point's frog. What type of slide switch do I need :?: double pole single throw, double pole double throw? What do I need :?:

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