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Postby chris69 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:20 pm

Hi guys,
well I am back in Germany and while packing things in the US I found this little train that was packed up for almost 20 years.
The loco was build using a Bachman N Scale Switcher with a scratch Cab. The dump cars are old ROCO ones.
Since I am very limited in space (69 X 39 CM ) I am looking for an oval track set that would fit the space. Looking around,
TOMIX and KATO seem to have something that would fit. If anyone has more info or experience with them, I would love to hear about it.
thanks for your help
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Re: HOn2 a mini...

Postby chris69 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:23 pm

Well, nobody has any information on tight radius sets....
that's hard to believe....
Someone, pleas ,thanks
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Re: HOn2 a mini...

Postby chris stockdale » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:47 pm

Alas Chris, we are so much quieter nowadays.

For example, only twenty or so members have signed in since you first posted, so if they’re not clued up on what you ask...

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Postby chris69 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:34 pm

No sweat Chris, was more of a satirical post on my end......
Am just in a rut at the time. The Stuff available on line does not give any sizes and the stores here do not carry it.
So thanks anyway.
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Re: HOn2 a mini...

Postby docnjoj » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:37 am

Is HOn2 standard 9mm track? If so both Kato and Tommytec make pre-built oval and circles in around the 6" radius. I hope this helps.
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Postby chris69 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:16 pm

Thanks David ! Really appreciate it! Helps a lot. All I could find was the Japanese print on the packages that are shown on line.
Have a great day
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Re: HOn2 a mini...

Postby DCRFAN 3 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:31 am

If the online photo show the packaging it may give the radius. There are apps available for smart phones which allow you to read the Japanese characters.

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Postby chris69 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:18 pm

Hi everyone...
well, it is going ahead with the layout....slowly..but....
In the meantime I bought some ARNOLD N scale track. It forms an oval of 84X40 CM radius is about 19,5 CM.
A great way to test the loco I have with the little mine cars.
In the meantime I also found an old N Scale TRIX Rack Locomotive chassis one I wanted to convert years ago. Some research got me A Shapeways HOe Body that matched perfectly.
With the track I also bought a power pack and some cars, a 4 axle ROCO freight car and an old BEMO 2 axle passenger one. A great start to test the drive and get them to run properly.
In the meantime I also ordered a TOMITEC set No: 910817.
So we are off to a relatively good start.
A shelf unit that will be in the living room affords enough room for a 45 X 105 CM layout....so once the set is here I can start playing with the track plan.....
Wish me luck
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Postby chris69 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:39 pm

Hi there,
so the track arrived from japan..Roughly a 46 X 32 oval.....And ordered some more track.....
Looks like it's going to be a fun project....
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Postby chris69 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:26 pm

Hi there...
well, it continues. The FALLER Gravel Crusher/Loader arrived and some more track is on the way.
I have some idea of what I want it to be but until the track arrives I am a bit stuck.The Gravel works will be one center , the other the quarry.....
So the imagination is working overtime....
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Postby Remote1 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:20 pm

This could be interesting, Chris.
Imagination; a wonderful tool for us modellers!

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Postby chris69 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:07 pm

Hi Steve,
absolutely correct....but remember the trap...way TOOOOOO many ideas and not enough time and space......lol
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Postby chris69 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:41 pm

Hi there,
got some great stuff in the mail today.....
Fond thees cars on E bay for EU 50.....5 of them...great price since they look like repainted BACHMAN 009 Narrow gauge ones.....
I probably can live with the green color...mat be....
But 2 cars had on one end the original couplers replaced N gauge type ones.....they have to go...
So does anyone have a source for replacement couplers of this type? I looked on the BACHMAN page and could not find any.
And an other question to the community. does anyone have experience with removing paint from these type of cars with BRAKE FLUID? I know it can work really well but can also attack the plastic....on some.
Love to hear your input.
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Here are some pictures:
I think they look just right behind the Diesel.....
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Postby Bilco » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:23 am

Hi Chris - try soaking them in undiluted Dettol disinfectant over night. The paint should become soft and can be scraped and wiped off. Dettol contains isopropol alcohol and another chemical which seems to dissolve even acrylic paint.

Dettol is also good hand sanitizer ...
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Postby chris69 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:18 pm

Thanks, that is a great idea! I will try that.
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Postby DCRFAN 3 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:09 am

Bilco wrote:Hi Chris - try soaking them in undiluted Dettol disinfectant over night. The paint should become soft and can be scraped and wiped off. Dettol contains isopropol alcohol and another chemical which seems to dissolve even acrylic paint.

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Postby chris69 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:11 pm

Thank you Dr Corona....good to know.......lol
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Postby chris69 » Thu May 07, 2020 6:38 pm

Hi there!
Well, I finally got my internet back.....Miracles do happen !
And the other miracle...I got my track from Japan ! So I started playing with the track plan.
The base will be 60 X 102 CM . I could have drawn a track plan but have had bad experiences when it came to the execution....
This way bad wake up calls are avoided. On the plan you can see the crusher building on the right and on the left there are the 2 mining areas.
The track that is partially visible under the crusher , the half section....will be on the lowest level. I want to make this the supply and product hauler coming out of a tunnel on the backside, going under the mine track to the front and then back in the tunnel on the left. I will make some more pictures when I figured out how it will all fit together.
I also got busy building some locos. i found 2 great one on shapeways.
Since I have not figured out how to insert the pictures they will be on the end.The yellow one is the one for the mine track, the green one will be finished as an electric and run on the lower track.
And since one needs Excavators, here they are !
The grey one is a Wicking Model, originally a 1:60 scale one. Since I wanted a HUSKY looking one, I converted it by modifying the cab.
The green UB 80 looks a bit different as well by now....nicely used !
Have fun...
Also anyone have a tip how one can INSERT the pictures.....

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Postby chris69 » Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:00 am

Hi Guys,
still around and the project is still active! In the Meantime I got more track and am at the 5t6h or 6th Track plan.....But I believe I found one that is interesting and workable. Combining the Continuous running of trains and a interesting surrounding on limited space is not as easy as it initially sounds...but also makes it interesting.
I will post some pictures this week.
Also the rolling stock has grown and gotten interesting.
Have a great weekend and
STAY SAFE ans HEALTHY
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Postby chris69 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:07 am

Hi there,
I finally arrived at a track plan I am going to stay with. I based it on a small layout I found on line.
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The siding on the top left will go in to the Quarry area.
As to the rolling stock, it grew quite a bit. But more about that later.
Enjoy and STAY safe and sane...
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Re: HOn2 a mini...

Postby chris stockdale » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:18 am

Hi Chris,

I grabbed a couple of photos of the same line a while ago for my own enjoyment. Great to know it's inspired you too. Your version looks like it should have both a good run and useful operating potential too.

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Postby chris69 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:48 pm

Hi there,
now on to the new creations of the rolling stock.

First:
Thanks Chris. A agree it should be interesting once the basic landscape id finished and the track down.

OK, here we go.
First my 4 axle cars. I got the ugly paint off with the help of break fluid.....it worked great.
I used SHELL Brake and Clutch fluid DOT 4 ESL. I loosened the paint in to a blistering film and with the help of a brush it came off quite easy without
attacking the plastic.
Besides changing the couplers, i distressed the wood and started the weathering with wash and powder. This is a different approach to me and quite a learning experience from my usual way of doing it in the large scale.....
So one started and quite a few to go....
OK...somehow the picture ended up at the end...go figure....

Next I bought 2 MINITRIX Faribanks Morse Switchers at EU 50 each. Great runners, heavy, good on the grades and easy to work with.
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The conversion was done on one ,following an old article from Model Railroader. If anyone is interested, send me a PM and I send you the article. I can not post it here for some reason.
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Th cab is a cut down BACHMAN HO switcher cab.
The Grab Irons and railings will be put to use on the other one.
Here I used a Shapeways body designed by TeeBee. It is the cheapest body offered without a lot of detail. I just wanted to see how it will look and work. But with some creativity it will be a good looking little critter.

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what looks like fuzz un the pilot are the pre drilled holes for the grab irons.
So you can see i will stay busy for a while......

Hera are some pictures of some other HOn30 conversions I found on line.
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There is one floating around my head that is roughly based on a true SHOP BUILT one from a South American Mine RR......
Once I get the pieces I can play around enough to see if it works as imagined.

again friends, enjoy
Chris
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Re: HOn2 a mini...

Postby chris stockdale » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:41 pm

Coming along nicely.

If you’re a Facebook user I found my info here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1911992 ... 777138165/

But I think you may need to be a Micro Layouts group member to see it. Easy enough, just click Join.

It’s on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pQ9nC7 ... xnHkHUkAPU

And some of the tiny loco builds (it’s Nn3) are here

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO ... JYSlF1VkN3

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Postby chris69 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:44 pm

Thanks Chris,
know the group, am an avid follower.
This is an other layout I had in mind, but the space was not there......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5ake8FCEU&t=68s

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Postby chris stockdale » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:06 am

That other line is fascinating but, unless modified, I think I’d soon lose interest. Your choice has great scenery potential as well as operating fun.

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