Tanker Time

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Postby Bilco » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:34 am

I haven't done much modelling recently - been tied up with some web site or other for much of the time. In order to get something going quickly I raided the scrap and spares boxes and collected enough bits to start on a little tanker wagon.

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The channel-in frame is a discard when I was working towards Pretty Flat - http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=7528 as is the wooden top - another lolly-stick construction. The Hudson-style axleboxes are from the over-production for Pretty Flat, and the oil drum is from a bunch of stuff I got from Mac's Mouldings - http://pages.123-reg.co.uk/macsmouldings1-1385814/ - a while ago.

Even the little bits of L section are from the scrap-box, and the NBW castings are from my stock of bits. I've got a load of wheels in the stash, too, and the only things I had to make - the couplers - are more bits from the scrap-box stuck together in odd ways.

All I've got to do now is clean everything up, paint and assemble the bits, add a few details, and she's ready to roll. Loadsa fun! :D
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:53 am

Very nice Bill.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:10 am

Nice bit of scrap box modelling Bill :)
There is something very satisfying about raiding the parts box and coming out with something useful like this.
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Postby Moronguhl » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:01 pm

Looking lovely Bilco! I'm always jealous of other people's plasticard builds, so neatly done and smooth with no shiny blobs!

I've secretly wanted a tanker wagon for a while so this is a nice inspirational thread for me!
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Postby michael » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:24 am

A gnice built Bill, great use of parts, it takes a bit of a creative imagination to cobble together such a good model from the scrap box.
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Postby dieselwater » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:03 am

Like yourself Bill I too have had to take a break from modelling for awhile, tied up with all that other stuff :roll:

A project like this is a smashing way to get the pottering juices gnoing as it were 8)

The scrap box is such a fertile soil for modelling inspiration, your lovely model is testament to this. Gnice one :D
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Postby Bilco » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:39 pm

Just a little progress to report. The chassis and wheels have been painted and lightly weathered, and the wooden deck stained and dry-brushed.

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I'm working on the oil drum now - nearly there :roll:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:08 pm

Very nice Bill, thats a great bit of painting and weathering, plus it is so realistic, it would be hard to tell from the real thing. Very well done.
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Postby Glen A » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:14 pm

I like it a lot 8)
You have managed to get that worn steel metal look very convincing, and thats hard to do!

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Postby Bilco » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:00 pm

A little more progress -

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Still little bits to fiddle about with, but it's getting there.
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Postby Broadoak » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:48 pm

Superb work Bill. 8)

It looks so real, I think I can smell spilt fuel.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:31 pm

Nice Bill, the pump and hose in particular are very nicely done. I like the natural look you have got with the way the hose lies on the drum.
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Postby henrix72se » Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:32 pm

Really splendid !!

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Postby michael » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:24 pm

Bill absolutely superb!! the steel looks real, very convincing work on the weathering of the rest and as Steve has already pointed out the hose looks very natural, how did you do the hose?
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Postby Bilco » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:47 pm

Hi Chaps - many thanks for the kind comments.

The pump and hose were lifted off the 16mm tank wagon I did a while ago - although the pump was only bought a year or so ago. The hose on this, as on Welsh Ernie, is made from resin core solder - it can be bent to the required shape easily, and retains the shape when you've finished. It just needs some paint to finish it off.

The paint effects are a bit experimental - started with Pretty Flat. In each case I started by spraying the chassis with matt black from a rattle can. Then I made up a thin mix of rust colour, and painted it quite roughly on one surface at a time, immediately wiping most of it off with some kitchen roll. You have to be careful that you catch any drips on other surfaces, as once they dry you can't get them off! Then I repeat, wiping again, to build up very thin rust colour. I use the ball of my thumb to wipe around raised detail, so that more of the thin wash is left around things like rivet heads.

Once the washes are dry I use a graphite stick from the local art shop to get the metallic sheen. I rub it on the edges and raised details to produce highlights, and on flat surfaces I rub the edge of the stick gently over and then rub it with my thumb to spread the graphite thinly and evenly. The finished effect depends on how many times you do the wash and how much graphite you put on. After my '20 years underwater' rust on my skips, I'm trying for more subtle effects!

I used the thin wash on the oil drum, too - thinned Weathered Black from the Railmatch paints. The drum was sprayed with Railmatch green, which is semi-gloss. The thinned wash won't stick at first, but I put plenty on, then used a big piece of kitchen roll rubbed all round, and the paint residue stuck, and formed a surface that will take subsequent washes. The wash dulled down the gloss a bit, and built up round the raised bands to make a bit of grime.

I guess you need to try it out and see what more washes or more graphite turn out like - the big problem is stopping just before you've done too much!
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Postby dieselwater » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:45 pm

Fantastic job Bill, thanks for sharing the tips with us :D
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Postby Bilco » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:28 pm

Whoops! - forgot one step in the painting sequence. I spray the chassis with Dullcote before doing the graphite rubbing to take off any shine.

I tried the Dullcote after the graphite on Pretty Flat, but it loses the 'metallic' shine, and the graphite had to be re-done.

Hope no-one has been washing and rubbing and wondering why it doesn't look like my efforts :oops: :oops:
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Postby michael » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:24 am

Thanks Bill for your explanations of the methods you used.
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Postby Bilco » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:22 pm

Right - I'm calling this little project finished. I've fixed all the components together and added a little weathering with powders and a few oil drips. The photos show the tanker wagon with Pretty Flat for comparison.

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Time for something a bit more ambitious :roll:
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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:11 pm

Very nice indeed. They look great on your display track.

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