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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby PeterH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:30 pm

Hi Les,

You need to be careful with pallets (and all wood packaging from overseas) that it does not have insecticide.

There is an organisation called the IPPC, and all wood pallets and packaging imported into a country have to have and IPPC stamp on the pallet or crate. The stamp has the treatment method, HT (heat treatment) or MB (methyl bromide insecticide). Usually wood from Asia is MB. If it's MB then they say not to use it for woodwork or firewood.

I came across this when someone gave me an old crate for firewood and I wondered what the stamp meant.

More here: http://chinawovenbag.com/blog/what-is-m ... en-pallet/
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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:55 am

Hi Peter,

Thank you for that one - I didn't know about it. I'll be looking a bit more carefully in future.

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:12 pm

Using Peco point templates and some On30 /OO track, I laid out the proposed track arrangement:

Image2017-07-06 15.35.52 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

which with a small modification (the front left track needs to be on a shallow curve) it all appears to work.

Image2017-07-06 15.36.04 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

The factory wall will look a little like this (the back piece is the "proper" height):

Image20170707_092206 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

Now that I know that the proposed track layout works in practice, I've given some thought to isolating sections and where they should be to provide some sort of operational interest for the operators.

I've come up with this:

ImageBaseboard 3a by lesmond2009, on Flickr

where switchable isolating sections are shown depending on which control panel has control over them. The proposed breaks are shown as coloured lines at right angles to the lines representing tracks.

Red are switched from the front, light green from the back, and orange (on the right hand board) locally from the back. This should allow the proposed three locomotives plus the fireless crane to move from place to place fairly easily and deal with incoming and outgoing loads.

This is subject to peer review as ever - if you can see a better way of positioning the sections please let me know :). Sometimes looking at a thing for too long can mean the obvious is missed.

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:17 pm

Front and back interface / control panels have mostly been made.

Front:

Image2017-07-15 14.42.47 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

Back:

Image2017-07-14 15.32.38 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

The front one has an XLR socket for a controller, then a 9 pin D connector for the point solenoids and a 25 pin D connector below for section switches, lights, volume etc. These will connect to a small control panel. The bottom 25 way D is for a train detection / notification system connecting cable.

The back panel has XLR sockets for power in (5 pin), controller (4 pin), audio in, and from the top the switches are for the following:

Top row - switches the left and right sector plates between front and back controllers.

Middle - reverses track polarity for fireless engines (they run in reverse as the chassis are in back to front) with LED tell tale.

Bottom - three isolating sections on the back line which connects the two end boards for "hiding" trains off stage.

Now to connect it all up....
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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby Bilco » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:14 pm

Gosh - that's not dissimilar to my control panel, Les ...

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:30 pm

If it works Bill...
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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby Steve Holland » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:21 pm

Les (and Bill),

Just be careful with the control panels, don't get too carried away as you may end up with one of these:

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Then you need a little bit of wiring and a few relays to control the railway:

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Might be a bit over the top for Gn15, but if you want to model Edge Hill in P4 :shock: it could be just the thing you need :D
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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby Thorness » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:51 pm

Steve Holland wrote:Les (and Bill),


Then you need a little bit of wiring and a few relays to control the railway:

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:D


Isn't that typical for a DCC layout?

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:30 pm

I'd not object to any of that :)
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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby docnjoj » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:11 am

If they used R/C they could get rid of 95% of all that electronic stuff. 8)
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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby Kerluk » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:57 pm

Avoid to start a firework with all this damn electronic stuff...:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:31 pm

Nothing posted for ages, but slow progress.

The wiring is taking shape:

Image2017-08-07 09.02.58 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

and I've been working at the rolling stock:

Image2017-08-07 20.22.56 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

Image2017-08-02 20.51.02 by lesmond2009, on Flickr

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/p/X1Td4s]2017-08-11 18.48.45[/url] by lesmond2009, on Flickr

A fair few damaged / knackered Hornby wagons are getting the chop, and developing a "look" which hopefully will give a sense of sameness to the finished layout.

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:02 pm

This one has been asleep for longer than it really ought to have been, but there has been progress on other fronts.

The plan all along has for the three baseboards to mount on to four trestles, and up to very recently I've been struggling to come up with a suitable design (to be fair I've not given it a vast amount of thought). I want a cheap (as free as possible, given that there are better avenues for the modelling budget), robust and universal system.

I have (somewhere, either at home or in work) a box with nice brass hinges in it. As usual, I can't find it :? . Thankfully a quick peruse of the Screwfix website uncovered a pair of steel hinges for £0.70 or so. Nicely within budget.

So, the plan is to dissect a pallet or two (free), and concoct a suitable trestle design using sanded pallet timber and Screwfix hinges. The target is under £2.00 (£2.50 if I'm really pushed) per trestle. Lets see what happens...

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby nu2ng » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:42 pm

Les

A few pics of my legs, well the leg system for my layout all built out of recycled wood (old double bed slats in this case) and various M6 bolts, nuts and washers I've purloined over the years.

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The top platform folds down inside the end leg, the middle leg is purely a support and the RHS is opposite of the first leg

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Takes a couple of mins to set up

And packs away into a neat bundle that fits across the boot of the car and can be carried one handed..

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Can provide further info/dimensions etc if you're interested..

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby lesmond » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:15 am

That's a lovely thing Andi.

Very substantial, yet compact and portable. I'd not thought of bed slats or M6 sized bolts tbh.

Thanks for this :)

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Re: Huge tools (sorry)

Postby Carlo » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:02 pm

Andi - That's a very elegant and attractive design, and it seems so easy and compact to store.
However, it does look a bit delicate to "stand up to" (pun intended) any weight or the abuse
I would likely give it. I think I'd need sturdier wood and more braces, but that's just my view.
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