Diving in...My 1st Gn15 bash. :o

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Diving in...My 1st Gn15 bash. :o

Postby David James » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:29 pm

I have always loved the looks of the Gn15 stuff.

As I have mentioned in another post, I model primarily in On30 and HOn3.

I ran across some cool G scale figures at my LHS, and decided I would use them for a bash of an old style Bachmann Gas Mechanical loco, I bought a pair of just after they released the DCC ready versions.

After pouring over many photos on this forum for inspiration, I have started.

The first thing I did, was to scratch build an air tank from some brass tube, and some Phosphorous bronze wire.

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Next, I built the exhaust stack from some styrene tubes.



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Then, a seat and pedestal.

The seat is styrene, and the pedestal is a dowel I turned in my drill press.

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I robbed the second GN of it's headlight, and added it to the front along with the original, as well as adding the bell.


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I am not sure if I will leave the bell there, the hole from the original headlight was handy, so I just stuck it in. I may build it a platform of its own, and mount it differently.

Nothing is permanently attached, as this is only in the mock up stage.

I think I will add another bit of tube to the bottom of the exhaust, in order to raise the guard up off of the hood a little bit as well.


From there, I turned my attention to the cab area floor.

I want the floor raised, so I made a raised edge to mount the floor on.

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Then, I made a mock up of the floor, so I can adjust it to fit around the transmission housing and to the edges of the raised bits as well as I can.

As you can see, adjustments are necessary, which is fine as my LHS is out of raised diamond plate material, I have some on order, so I have a few days to work that out.


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I operated on my figure to make his legs fit in a seated position, and have to do some filling on his knees...that looks painful!

Also, you can see the seat pedestal does not sit properly. I think once I get the floor worked out, I will have enough room to sit it right, otherwise, I will rework that with a goose neck in it or something on that line.




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Here it is, as it is of this morning, again.... nothing is glued together, just mocked up.


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Jezz......this is fun!!!!!!!

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Postby David James » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:43 pm

Oops!

For some reason, the Computer added text to my photo links.:(

I went back and edited them and I think I have that worked out now. :D

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Postby dr5euss » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:45 pm

Very cool, David 8) It looks bulkier, somehow; must be the lights on the side and a large exhaust.

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Postby chris stockdale » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:55 pm

Excellent. With those large dual headlights there is a hint of a railway WALL-E :D


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Postby Rockley Bottom » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:03 pm

Great start, the exhaust should get the fumes well clear of the driver.
Like the two head lights, should look impressive in a low light situation.
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Re: Diving in...My 1st Gn15 bash. :o

Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:16 pm

David James wrote:Jezz......this is fun!!!!!!!


And thats how it should be :)
Nice start Dave, the Davenport makes a great place to start in Gn15 and your additions certainly enhance it. My one reservation would be the bell, the styling looks a bit early to find on an I/C loco, but it could be that it was salvaged from an old steamer and put to use :) .
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Postby Geno6309 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:41 pm

No matter what else you may change, keep the frog-eye headlights. That's distinctive and innovative.
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Postby Panda » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:02 pm

Looking really good!
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Postby Bob Taylor » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:06 pm

Like everybody else I do like those headlights! Not sure why to be honest but they just work. Keep those whatever else you change.

All in all a good start. Will keep a close eye on this one.



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Postby Nick Ellingworth » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:31 pm

Absolutely excellent David, like everyone else I love the headlights and I'm very surprised that no one else has tried to do something similar.

I look forward to seeing the finished model.

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Postby gfadvance » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:40 pm

Like everyone else looking forward to seeing how this develops - think like me you are really enjoying the freedom that working in Gn15 gives.

Keep going and keep having fun
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:57 pm

Agree with previous comments David, looking good. 8)
Why not find some Plastic Packaging Tape for your checkerplate. One substantial length of that and you'll never need to buy any. :wink:
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:19 pm

I like the bell, but I tend to think on the same lines as Steve that it may not quite fit in with the period of the loco.

I was wondering if a dome type bell would fit, possibly with a string going to the cab for it to be used?. The other option could be a horn. :? :?

Any way its your loco and your loco and its a great start :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:37 pm

Looks great :D Trying things out like this means sometimes details work together where they look odd on their own, once you think it looks right, it IS right :D
A fine entrance into Gn15 :D
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Postby Glen A » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:19 pm

What a great start David.

I actually like the seat pedestal on a backwards lean. If it was my model, I would keep it like that. It looks like a big fat person has sat on it and bent it.
But I guess it depends if you want a beaten around weathered look, or new and pristine straight out of the paint shop.

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Postby David James » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:01 am

Thanks for all the encouragement everyone!

Steve you have a great point about the bell looking like an import from an old steamer.

I never really thought about it, as it is a detail bit that was included with the Bachmann loco!

I think I will scratch build one, and hang it from a simple metal bar and have the clapper hang down with a rope tied to it, for ringing it as Ralph suggested.

I like the idea of a bell on it and I like the horn idea as well..maybe I will do both!

Gerry, the packing tape for checkerplate is a verrry interesting idea, one which I will file away for future use!

This loco has diamond plate on the running boards or whatever you want to call them, and I want to use that to tie things together.

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Postby nobby » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:22 pm

Gerry Bullock wrote:Why not find some Plastic Packaging Tape for your checkerplate. One substantial length of that and you'll never need to buy any.


Any chance of some more detail of what this is, please?
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Postby Bob Taylor » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:26 pm

To my mind packing tape is smooth. Wonder if its gaffer/duck tape that can be used? It as a texture of sorts. Never seen it used for checker plate though.

Like to see some results myself.


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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:42 pm

It's the plastic band that is wrapped around boxes etc, the ends are overlapped and heat welded, the band is not adhesive, but very tough and normally needs a knife or cutters to cut it.
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Postby gfadvance » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:52 pm

If you have a look half way down first page, sorry don't know how to link it, on "end of the line for Tich Mk1 on the 3 pictures I have used the security plastic tape as chequer plate.
Keep your eye out for it because it does come in several different styles.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:27 pm

I vote for keeping the bell - it is a practical matter; works like a bicycle bell, you see, if this little thing has a well tuned motor and is idling along with a small wagon or two in tow through the warehouse grounds, the sharp clang of the bell should alert (alarm?) unwary bystanders.
For several years I worked at an AT&T installation where 3-wheel bicycles were used in-plant, this place was huge, and they had very clear bells on them, which saw frequent employment!
And after that came 5 years at an auto auction where a couple incidents occurred - slowly moving autos are quieter than one might expect.
And then there's been a number of incidents in full size RR yards where slowly moving locos, both steam and infernal combustion have "snuck-up-out-of-nowhere".

At night, bell may be a bit redundant :arrow: if you can't see those headlights, well, that's your problem! :lol: :roll:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:30 am

nobby wrote:Any chance of some more detail of what this is, please?


I have always known it as banding, as that was what they called it in the factory I worked at as a young lad. Wether others know it as that, I dont know. I'm not sure a photo will help, but worth a try

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Postby nobby » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:41 am

Thanks for the help with the 'chequer plate' everyone.
I've seen the stuff and never noticed the pattern but ten I've never been a modeller before! There is obviously an 'eye' to develop :D

Sorry to have hijacked the thread.
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Postby Bob Taylor » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:05 pm

Oh yeah :oops: :oops: :D



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Postby David James » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:16 pm

Hi again!

I was suffering from modeling burnout and took a few weeks off.

I HAVE kept up with whats going on in the forum and am very impressed with all that is going on...wow!

I did not stop modeling totally though, I would do a little bit here and there, and this is where I am on my little loco.


I said it before and I will again...this is a lot of fun!!

I decided to rework the cab of the loco, in order to make it a little more pleasing to myself, weather it is prototypical or not, does not concern me...I just go for a look I like.


I also made up a few more detail parts, and have painted and weathered most of it.

I didn't do the raised deck in the operator area after I got the diamond plate, but rather just fit a piece in for the floor.

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I think I will add this bit, that was included with the loco, but I think I will attach it outside the cab, like this.

Here, it is just sitting on top, to get a look at how it would work in...I like it!
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