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Postby Bilco » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:22 pm

I've been watching the latest incarnations of UE - ice cream sellers, overhead racks with ladders .... my attempt seems very pedestrian in comparison. I've been working on it over the weekend after a few days seeking inspiration - when I should really be getting back on the Drawing Board :roll:


So, having taken the body off as helpfully shown on posts on the Forum, the first job was to take a razor saw to it and remove all the bits that don't look like the loco I have in mind.

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The job nearly done - not a lot left, but those big bits sticking out front and rear have got to go!


Of course, removing the aforementioned bits means that one set of screw fixings is lost, so they were carefully cut out and glued onto the body remains, along with other bits of plasticard to strengthen it.

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This shows the underside after the cutting and glueing. Only one set of holes will require drilling in the floor to fit it in place. The black stuff showing through the holes is lead sheet to give it all a bit of weight (as recommended by Mr Bennett).


To complete the weekend's work, more bits of plasticard were glued on and the whole thing cleaned up, sanded, filed, drilled and generally made loco-like.

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A weekend's progress - well, Friday evening, Saturday & Sunday. Can you tell what it is yet?


Next job is to alter the floor and frames - pass me the razor saw Igor! :twisted:
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Postby Colin Peake » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:27 pm

Looks a little Simplex-ish to me, I'm intrigued.....

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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:32 pm

Baby Simplex :?:
Great start Bill 8)
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Postby Glen A » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:30 pm

Hi Bill,

You have made a really good job cutting those air vents in the side. 8)
Do you have a drilling and milling machine?
My attempts never look that good. :cry:

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Postby dieselwater » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:20 am

You're making a very tidy job of it 8) Igor says, "good work with the razor saw!" :twisted: :lol:
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Postby GUTMACH » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:27 am

Simplex, really? I thought it looks more like a 1.5 to 2.0 ton Plymouth critter. Looks like it going to be a nice looking little critter, no matter the design inspiration.

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Postby Bilco » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:47 am

Thanks for the kind comments - it is based (loosely :roll: ) on the Baby Simplex - I suppose the thread title is a bit of a giveaway!

I found this thread http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=1557 with a picture of Chris Krupa's version, and a 7/8ths model by Hendrik Laurell on the 78N7/8th web site - although that doesn't seem to be there any more I have a couple of the photos in my inspiration files.

The slots are a bit of a bodge - I drilled holes at each end, opened each slot up by drilling and cutting along the line, and cleaned up with a slim file. Not perfect but not as bad as I feared. What I did neglect to do was paint the inside of the little top compartment black before I glued the top on!
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:31 am

Nice work Bill, I'm amazed you saw the Baby Simplex form in it, but now you have butchered it, looks obvious :lol:

I might just have to follow your example :)
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Postby Bilco » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:09 pm

Thanks Steve - I found your photos of Workhorse at Perrygrove very useful for the underframe detail - they might even be inspiration for butchery of my second UE - or do you want to go down that route?!
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:31 pm

Bilco wrote:Thanks Steve - I found your photos of Workhorse at Perrygrove very useful for the underframe detail - they might even be inspiration for butchery of my second UE - or do you want to go down that route?!


:lol: Dont worry about me, my Ernie's havent been touched yet and probably wont be for a while yet, too many other projects on the go :) .

Glad you found the Workhorse pics useful. It does have a different underframe from the original Simplex design as it has additional weight built onto it, primarily along the outside of the frames. I'm not sure if this was how it was built originally, or if added later. I do have more pics if you need more info, but the best ones are on Fotopic.

For those who dont know what we are talking about have a look at Workhorse
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Postby martin » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:31 pm

looks fantastic so far!
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Postby Bilco » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:54 pm

Well, some progress to report.

The floor and motor frames were cruelly hacked about with razor saw and my trusty Xuron cutters. The floor now fits under the body and various bits of plasticard have been stuck to it to simulate axleboxes and other gubbins.



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The mods to the floor can be seen, as well as the added axleboxes et al. These mods left the motor mount flopping about a bit, so strips of plasticard were stuck under the sideframes to restrict its movement and keep it level. There are 2 clips (one just visible here) that hold the motor mount in place, sloping on top, presumably so that the motor mount can be pushed through the opening in the floor and click in place. Is the process reversible without damaging the clips? I've tried slipping a knife blade under one side and levering gently but to no avail.


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The full horror of the bodged-up arrangement for the axleboxes is exposed. The hope is that, when all is painted black and the faces of the axleboxes and other gubbins highlighted, the eye will ignore the remains of the sideframes behind.



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The body sitting on the floor. Already it's hard to see the sideframes (if you squint a bit). It looks like I'll have to lift those big weights on the ends a bit though.

There are still some details to add - I've started to build up a cover for the rear of the motor and all that electronic gubbins. However, it looks a bit more advanced.
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Postby dieselwater » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:13 pm

The thing with modding, is that you'll always have tricky bits to sort out. It's getting there though, and really looks the business 8)
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Postby martin » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:15 pm

you're making me want to buy another ernie!
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:33 pm

Good to see the update Bill, even more incentive now to have a go at this :) . Thanks for showing the steps you are taking, they will be very useful.
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Postby Bilco » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:48 am

Another weekend, a bit more progress - just about ready for the horrors of of the Bilco paintshop.

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That rear railing looks very thick, until I put a figure on the seat.


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The light is from the Italeri truck details kit. I tried to get black paint into the top compartment by squirting it through the grill. Result - paint everywhere :oops:


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Before and after - silk purse into sow's ear? Painting the underframe matt black has disappeared it completely - with any luck highlighting the bits I want to show will get the effect I'm after.

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The bits that didn't get used - I'm sure the discard pile is bigger than the model.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:07 am

WOW what a transformation :!: Nice work Bill 8)

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Postby dieselwater » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:10 am

+ 1 for a big WOW 8) It looks great. Looking forward to the paint.
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Postby Korschtal » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:20 am

Very noce conversion: I'm glad I saw the progress pictures or I wouldn't have recognised the origins...
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:50 am

Thats one heck of a kitbash. Gniffy :D
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Postby Dallas_M » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:46 am

Hi Bill --

A little bit from your opening of this thread:

Bilco wrote:I've been watching the latest incarnations of UE - ice cream sellers, overhead racks with ladders .... my attempt seems very pedestrian in comparison.


Me-thinks your "very pedestrian" bash has been beautifully done ... it's really elegant in its simplicity and neatly executed! :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:00 pm

Thats terrific Bill, I know for sure now what one of my Ernie's is going to become :) . You have really captured the character of the Simplex, excellent work, not to mention inspiring. Can hardly wait to see it painted :) .
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Postby Simon Moore » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:35 pm

Brilliant! Really fantastic bash, as Steve says the character is there, the grille looks a lot more realistic than my attempt in card. Can't wait to see it finished and with a driver :D

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Postby martin » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:29 pm

It really is fantastic! Love the seat - can't wait to see it painted!
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Postby Geeky Gecko » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:47 pm

Look good.I really like the seat too and your method of covering the works in the centre.
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