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Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:50 pm

Right, having cleared the Bodgeneerium of the locotracteur I started to think of the next bodgement. I found an intriguing image online ...

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That could be an interesting bodge, given the right ingredients ...

So, a melange has been assembled, courtesy of t'Bay ...

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From the top - a Teamsterz saddle tank loco ( with a strange tender), a Lima HO diesel loco, and a workman's coach body kit from 422 Modelmaking.

Casting the tender aside, the unpacked loco looks like this ...

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And the loco disembowled looks like this ...

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The cab and tank top are a one-piece metal casting, while the rest is plastic ...

A (very) rough 'design' session leads me to think that it's not a bodge too far ...

Hours of fun ...
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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby chris stockdale » Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:43 pm

The phrase, ‘You don’t have to be mad, but it helps’ comes to mind for some reason. :D

Cheers,

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:38 pm

Well Chris, my advanced mental bereftness was diagnosed a long time ago ...

Anyway, I've made a start on the coach sides ...

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The sides and an end as 422 made them ...

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The end result of a chopping session ...

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The end result of a glueing session. The prototype sides have 4 windows, but as I'm bodging a 'like' rather than a 'same-as' I can live with that. The cab won't have an access door to the coach, so a piece of styrene sheet will do for that, and also for the cab front ...

On measuring the saddle tank it looks like I'll have to shorten it and remove the cab - the pile of rejected bits will be much bigger than the bit I use, as usual ...

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:23 pm

The cut-up-and-stuck-together bits now assembled into the coach body ...

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From the back, showing the door onto the rear balcony ...

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... and from the front, showing the arched door into the cab and the cab front ...

A good solid false roof ensures that all is firm and square ...

Ok - square-ish ...

I thought I was going to have a lot of filling and filing to do on the joins of the stuck together bits, then tried a couple of strips of styrene glued over the worse joins. A dozen pieces of styrene strip later ...

Now to work on the chassis of the diesel loco ...

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby DCRFAN 3 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:44 am

Looking good

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:40 pm

Work on the chassis. The first thing I did was remove the motor bogie and the unpowered bogie, and cut off the box from the underside ...

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The hole was filled with 2mm styrene sheet to strengthen the chassis, and more 2mm and 1mm styrene sheet was used to level up the top surface. The chassis was widened by the addition of 3mm styrne strip along the edges- 6mm deep under the coach body and 3mm deep under the boiler ...

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Buffer beams were also added front and rear - the front one is deeper, because I'm going to fit SKIRTS!! The horror ...

But I'm not going to mess with the motor bogie to add coupling and connecting rods, cross-heads and slide bars, so hiding the bogie is the only thing for it ...

The coach body sitting in place just to show how it'll look ...

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So, next task is to plate over the top of the chassis with 0.5mm sheet and fit those skirts ...

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:45 pm

So - chassis top plated - tick, skirts fitted - tick ...

I started work on the body of the loco part of the infernal contraption. Not much left of the original ...

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... just a length of the tank, cut to remove the cab and two of the holes for the vastly oversize handrails. The 'dome' was removed and, as the tank is a bit shallow, I glued some strips of 2mm styrene to the bottom edge. Then a piece of 0.5mm styrene sheet was superglued over the remaining holes ...

I had misjudged how much the motor bogie has to swing - the skirts already limit that a little - so I had to fix the lower 'boiler' sides further out from the centre than I had hoped ...

So, the bits propped together to see how it looks ...

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I see that I'd also misjudged where to make the holes in the cab front, despite 'careful' measuring. Looks like the next job is making a new cab front ...

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:08 pm

Progress crawls on ...

A new cab front has been made and fitted. The boiler/tank section has been modified to make a better attempt at the shape of the smokebox, and the resulting holes diguised with valve covers. I hope to distract the eye from the width of the side sheets under the tank, needed to give the motor bogie some decent swivel movement, by the addition of assorted bits of iron-mongery. The skirts over the assumed motion have been decorated with hinged access panels ...

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What may not be so obvious is that the chassis has been lengthened by 4mm - two inserts of 2mm styrene front and rear - to give a bit more footplate in front of the smokebox, and bigger steps at the rear.

The photos were taken in strong raking light, and reveal that some more filling and sanding is required ...

Hours of fun ...
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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:37 pm

Right - the loco end of things is now liberally festooned with bits and pieces ...

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... and a patch of filler I must sand down. I'm hoping that, when black paint is sloshed over the tank and boiler and the springs highlighted, the bit under the tank won't seem so wide ...

Of course, most of the bits are just balanced in place for the photo, while I consider what to tackle next ...

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Sun May 09, 2021 12:42 pm

I seem to have spent weeks drilling little holes for handrails, and sticking little bits of styrene together for steps ...


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The little steps in front are made from pieces of 10mm L section - cut the horizontal edge in half lengthwise, cut that bit in half widthwise, and stick the little bit you're left with onto the shaped vertical part of the L section. They will be a bit vunerable when stuck to the body, so a short length of 1mm brass rod has been sunk into the underside of the chassis to support them. The larger steps are just stuck-together styrene fragments ... ...


A view of the major bits propped together ...


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A bit of bling on the loco end - the springs are intended to disguise the too-wide boiler underside - lots of black paint sloshed on will help with that, I hope ...


Talking of paint, I'll soon I'll have to make a start with the trauma of getting the right colour paint on the right bits ...


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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby chris stockdale » Sun May 09, 2021 2:37 pm

Hi Bill,

Your ‘hours of fun’ has built a really interesting and I imagine, sizeable, Gn15 creation.

Cheers,

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Wed May 12, 2021 6:18 pm

Well Stockers, it would be sizable if it was Gn15, but it's actually 7mm scale - and quite big enough!
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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby chris stockdale » Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 am

Oops! :oops:

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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Tue May 18, 2021 6:57 pm

Not to worry, Stocker - this is the Gn15 forum after all ...

Back in March, when this Bodgement was started, there were some calls in another place for me to make the curly roof. I wasn't at all sure that I would be able to do that - a bodge too far - and then ...

I saw a photo on another thread (in that other place) of a model in 7mm of the Festy curly-roof luggage van, and that set off a train of thought ...

I found out that the model was made from a resin kit by Port Wynnstay models, so I emailed them and asked if I could buy the curly roof casting. Phil Traxson quickly replied in the affirmative, and for the very reasonable price of £5 inc p&p I found myself in possession of - a curly roof ...

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I can see in the photo that the ends of the roof overhang a little bit, so I bodged a couple of ends ...

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After very careful measuring I cut the casting to the required length and stuck the ends on ...

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After a deal of filling, fettling, and foul language the results don't look too bad ...

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I think it'll do. Now to start painting ...

Hours of fun.
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Re: Bilco's Bodgements #6

Postby Bilco » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:12 pm

As ever, the painting stage has had it's traumatic moments - well, periods really - so progress has been very slow ...

The rear, unpowered bogie was looking a little bare, so I faked up some brake shoes and springs ...

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These are the seats to go in the coach section ...

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They're made from short lengths of L-section Plastruct glued to square-section steel bar, to add a bit of weight to the rear - the metal tank section adds some to the front, and the white-metal back-head adds some in the middle. The original Lima diesel had a substantial lump of metal under the centre section, so weight must be needed ...

The painting of the coach section didn't go too badly, and it's now glazed and seats and back-head fitted ...

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Sadly, not so good progress on the loco section, which has needed one strip-and-repaint, and I'm desperately trying to avoid another ...

Hours of fun ...
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